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TS here too...
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Jim, I use a regular 1/4" bit to do mine on the router table. I quit doing it on the router table because I was getting blow out from the router bit. You will do better with a box joint TS blade. As far as I know, there is no such thing as a box joint router bit.

https://www.amazon.com/Freud-20T-Joi...int+cutter+set
Is there any advantage to the blade referenced by @hawkeye10 over the more general dado blade, aside from the $15 lower price? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MJ2V9J...9232596&sr=8-6

Also, there are box joint router bits but they do indeed have maximum cutting heights in the 35 mm (1 3/8 inch) range. For example, in addition to the bit referenced by @sunnybob , of brands at least sometimes aproved by @Stick486 , Amana: https://www.toolstoday.com/box-joint-set.html

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Please note @TWheels had not read carefully enough. The Summerfeld bit is a very fine Finger joint bit, not a box joint bit

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1... Is there any advantage to the blade referenced by @hawkeye10 over the more general dado blade,

2... Also, there are box joint router bits but they do indeed have maximum cutting heights in the 35 mm (1 3/8 inch) range. For example, in addition to the bit referenced by @sunnybob ,

3... of brands at least sometimes approved by @Stick486 , Amana: https://www.toolstoday.com/box-joint-set.html
1... not all beasts are created equal... this is Freud's box joint blade.. much finer/cleaner cut than a dado...
Saw Blades | Dado Sets | Box Joint Cutter Set

2... lets not confuse finger and box joint bits... THEY ARE ENTIRELY TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOINTS and NOT INTERCHANGEABLE NOMENCLATURE....
BOX...
https://www.toolstoday.com/box-joint-set.html
FINGER...
https://www.toolstoday.com/finger-jo...outer-bit.html

3... Ahhhhh.
Amana made in Israel (very good bits) is worlds different from the Amana made in china junk...
but...
their CS leaves a lot to be desired...

4... Box joint bits do have their place... small boxes as in jewelry boxes and such...
you want big box joints.. go w/ the box blade set...

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1... not all beasts are created equal... this is Freud's box joint blade.. much finer/cleaner cut than a dado...
Saw Blades | Dado Sets | Box Joint Cutter Set

2... lets not confuse finger and box joint bits... THEY ARE ENTIRELY TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOINTS and NOT INTERCHANGEABLE NOMENCLATURE....
BOX...
https://www.toolstoday.com/box-joint-set.html
FINGER...
https://www.toolstoday.com/finger-jo...outer-bit.html


3... Ahhhhh.
Amana made in Israel (very good bits) is worlds different from the Amana made in china junk...
but...
their CS leaves a lot to be desired...

4... Box joint bits do have their place... small boxes as in jewelry boxes and such...
you want big box joints.. go w/ the box blade set...
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I agree with your comment about Amana CS


So Is there a reason to have both blades?

2... lets not confuse finger and box joint bits... THEY ARE ENTIRELY TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOINTS and NOT INTERCHANGEABLE NOMENCLATURE....

We must always keep this point in mind when considering small fingered joints. Box joints have straight boxy fingers. Finger joints have tapered fingers.

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So Is there a reason to have both blades?
yes...
they are designed to do different cuts...
the box blade give you a finished product and the dado blade cuts may need clean up...
but then again.. we all crave a set of Veritas shoulder planes..
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I've only made a couple of boxes using this bit which was very cheap on Ebay and it worked well after working on it to make it precision. It restricts the height of the box of course hence only two boxes.
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I keep coming back to the Incra I-box jig and the Freud 1/4-3/8ths blade for general use. For larger fingers, I just use my dado set. The Incra jig adjusts for whatever dado stack I choose and cuts perfect fitting joints. The router bit approach is far less than the $164 jig, and if you add the Bosch blades and/or decent 8 inch dado set, the cost is significant.

If cost is an issue, then a quality, sharp, clean router bit, plus a little cleanup and using entry and exit sacrificial pieces works OK, so long as there's no chipping to ruin the piece.

But there's no question that the Incra I-box jig is a great solution for freuent box makers, or anyone who wants to make a long box joint on larger sized projects.

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