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I am getting ready to start work on a dining room table which will involve a mortise and tenon breadboard joint and was wondering what types of router bits would work best to do the job.

The breadboard will have a mortise depth of between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 inches, and will also have a continuous 1/2" groove for a stub tenon. My tenons are going to be 1/2" thick on 1 1/4" sassafras.

This will be my first mortise and tenon joint, so if anyone has any other suggestions I could use the input!
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Welcome to the forum Elley. Those are pretty deep mortices so you may only be able to find straight bits in that length (and at a price you are willing to pay). It should be plunge capable as not all are. Mortices should be slightly deeper than the tenon that will go in them. I would also remove (hog out) most of the waste wood by drilling first. Whiteside Machine has a 2 1/2" cutting depth, 1/2 diameter, 1/2" shank bit that would work. The part # is 1073. Amazon is usually a good place to look for the best deal.

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Way too deep & too many for routing.
Time for power tool purchase (Morticer).
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which style are you gong with???

https://www.google.com/search?q=brea...eo%3B320%3B240

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I am getting ready to start work on a dining room table which will involve a mortise and tenon breadboard joint and was wondering what types of router bits would work best to do the job.

The breadboard will have a mortise depth of between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 inches, and will also have a continuous 1/2" groove for a stub tenon. My tenons are going to be 1/2" thick on 1 1/4" sassafras.

This will be my first mortise and tenon joint, so if anyone has any other suggestions I could use the input!
got dado blade and table saw???
slot cutter for the router???

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got dado blade and table saw???
slot cutter for the router???
No to the dado blade, table saw and slot cutter - I am hoping to do this with my router, jigsaw, and various hand tools. My BIL has a table saw, but the table top is going to be over 80" long. Thinking of something similar to the pic attached, but was thinking of doing 5 tenons rather than 3.
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Thank you for the info, Charles!
I will do some searching. The breadboard is 5 1/2" right now, but I could rip it down to less so the mortise doesn't need to be as deep. It's quite a large table top - finishing around 34" x 87"
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To be honest Elley, my first thought when I read your first post was the same as Quillman. A morticing machine or drill press morticing attachment would be the best. However, you would have to mount it in an open window and hang the boards outside to do 80". Still, those are really deep mortices. If I were going to try and do that with a router I would try and have almost all the waste wood removed and just do a light finish cut with the router and probably in stages of depth. This isn't a particularly easy task.

I would tend to go at least partly like Stick is suggesting and use a table saw. You can easily make a deep groove with a table saw and tenons are easily done with a straight router bit to almost any length you want them.

Have a good look at the pictures in Stick's link. It shows in one picture glue being applied only to the middle of the assembly. The table is going to expand and contract across it's width with seasonal humidity changes so you have to allow it to move or you will get cracked boards and joints. I really like the idea of the dovetail in the one picture but it is a much more difficult job.

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I guess I am missing something normally you only bread board the end, are doing the whole circumference of the table.
Is this solid wood table or hardwood plywood center, if solid wood do your machining before glueing your top up, material will be easier to handle.
I also believe that you could cut down the size of mortice and tenon and still use a 5 1/2" bread board
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Thank you all so much for the input and help! I will be doing some research on how to remove the waste wood, and do some practice work before working on the good wood. I'm making myself a list so I don't forget any steps. :-)
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