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Has anyone used these? I did a search of the first before posting but didn't find anything.
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I have one but never used it yet. If you've seen cabinet doors made from mdf that look like raised panels then you've seen how they work. If you use mdf it needs to be the cabinet grade. The regular grade doesn't rout as smoothly.

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Has anyone used these? I did a search of the first before posting but didn't find anything.
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To my eye they look a bit machine made (mainly because they are designed for use on CNC routers), but then we all have widely differing tastes. I can't help you with a USA supplier, but we have a firm in the UK who sell these Raise-a-Panel sets, which sound just like what you are looking for. This page shows how thay are used. I have often thought that with a bit of ingenuity, some appropriatly-sized guide bushes and a selection of relatively low cost bottom cutting bearings it should be possible to do something very similar. It may take a bit more time and patience, that's all.

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If you use mdf it needs to be the cabinet grade. The regular grade doesn't rout as smoothly.
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You can't always get high density or deep rout MDF, however, MR-MDF (the green moisture resitant variety used in construction) will rout to quite a distinct edge and is worth trying if you haven't done so already

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I've used one before and it did OK but not as good as a standard raised panel bit
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I don't use MDF, will they work in plywood or solid wood? Just asking.
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I don't see why not Herb.

Thanks for that Phil. I don't ever recall seeing green mdf here. I'll have to look more carefully when I go to my plywood supplier. I've never heard of the finer grade of mdf being hard to come by here.

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I don't use MDF, will they work in plywood or solid wood?
They're TCT, so they'll certainly work, however I'd be a bit concerned about the plywood end grain telegraphing through the finish in the profiled "troughs", especially if paint-finished. On clear finish I think the end grain would tend to detract visually from the profile (i.e. be too "busy"). AFAIK this type of cutter was developed for lower cost paint-finish doors which on this side of the pond are normally made of 18mm (3/4in) MDF

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Yes, the denser MDF is much more of a specialist product in the UK, so you have to really search for it - MR-MDF is much more readily available, although not in such a wide variety of thicknesses, although 8, 12 and 18mm are fairly easy to find throught trade suppliers (not DIY stores) in my experience

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however I'd be a bit concerned about the plywood end grain telegraphing through the finish in the profiled "troughs", especially if paint-finished. On clear finish I think the end grain would tend to detract visually from the profile (i.e. be too "busy").

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hand sanded thoroughly rubbed in grain filler or thinned wood fi8ller will take care of the telegraphing...
on Baltic PVA glue will work...
this providing everything is to be painted...

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hand sanded thoroughly rubbed in grain filler or thinned wood fi8ller will take care of the telegraphing...
on Baltic PVA glue will work...
this providing everything is to be painted...
To my mind it depends on the service environment - in a damp environment such as a kitchen or bathroom I thing ther might well be issues in the longer term. I certainly wouldn't trust it on a paying job

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To my mind it depends on the service environment - in a damp environment such as a kitchen or bathroom I thing there might well be issues in the longer term. I certainly wouldn't trust it on a paying job

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MDF in a damp environment is an exercise in futility...
Baltic is glued up w/ exterior glue...
it's a good thing to be recalled in for additional work or make changes...
not so much to redo what you have done on your dime

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