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MuscleChuck vs Whiteside Eliminator...huh...?

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#1 ·
Since joining the forum I've seen, read, heard about Musclechuck...

So now there is a Whiteside version of the Musclechuck...?

Have I missed something along the way or has Whiteside's version always been there...?

Can one of you MuscleChuck'ers 'splain that Lucy...?

...then I'll go back to sleep...

Thanks...Nick
 
#2 ·
Never mind...got my answer...should have researched before posting...

Thanks...Nick
 
#4 ·
I subsequently found (Detroit) Mike's thread describing extensions (June 2013) and then reviews back to 2008 for Whiteside Eliminator.

I guess the forum discusses the Musclechuck so much I got the impression it was the only one on the market. When I ran across the Whiteside I was a bit surprised...

....then I wished I knew how to delete the post... :)

Thanks...Nick
 
#5 · (Edited)
For the benefit of those who don't know, what is now known as the "Elininator" was invented by the same John DeRosa who designed the MUSCLECHUCK but sold the patent some time ago, I believe at the time of the patent it was simply called the DeRosa chuck. Unlike the MUSCLECHUCK which he designed and patented later, it relies on a cam gripping just one point of the bit's shank as opposed to an even grip all round giving I'm told a far greater grip than a conventional collet chuck, and both chucks only require an Allen key for bit change.
 
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#6 ·
Thanks, Harry...So, first came DeRosa chuck, then sold patent, then Eliminator, then Musclechuck...? And the eliminator does not grab the same way as the Musclechuck...?

Have I got it...?
 
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It is an indisputable fact that gripping all round the circumference is FAR Superior to gripping in just one spot and I can't help wondering if the mild steel shanks don't get nicked by the hardened cam.
 
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#13 · (Edited)
Well guys I watched a video on the Musclechuck and I have to say it's an interesting concept .
I think I'll order a few , not sure if there all the same but I want one for my Porter Cable 690 and 75182 .
Debating if I should put one on my Festool 1400 plunge router as it has a pretty slick system now ? But I guess the Musclechuck would improve it further yet . Gotta find me one of those long Allen wrenches too
 
#18 ·
Rick you should search Musclechuck on the forum and look for the post where the inventor was describing the installation process. He went over what to do if it is out of round and/or vibrates.
 
#20 ·
I'm not sure either Rick as I haven't purchased one yet. Maybe one or more of the members who have one could elaborate. In any case, no one who has one has suggested that there is anything better.
 
#21 ·
I have 2 one on each router table. The oneis ona PC 7518 and the other is on the bosch 1617.
When I got them I pulled off the original collet and nut, and screwed the muscle chucks on ,put router bit in them and turned them on. Everything fine ,no slippage of bit or vibration.
Tried them with a 14 collet adaptor I already had and they work good.

Herb
 
#23 ·
Typo,That is supposed to be 1/4" collet, not 14.

I don't know what an extended version is, I just went to the table and checked my router # and got the style # and ordered it. Then went to the table again and looked for the next one and ordered that one.

The only other option was the Musclechuck alone, 1/4" collet + musclechuck, 1/4" collet plus muscle chuck + something else, spacers or something.
and the wrench was separate I think the allen wrench is metric too. I had a question and email him and got a reply right away.

Herb
 
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#32 ·
The only problem it causes is not being able to lower the bit far enough. I have a Milwaukee router with above table adjustment and with the Musclechuck installed I have sometimes lowered the router enough that it drops off the adjustment teeth. It's just "that much" longer than the original collet.
 
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