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Hi every one!

I came across these products, and they're supposed to be very good...BUT?! Are they?Has ANYONE ever got in touch with something like that? They allegedly have everything. From router bits for portable routers to CNC router bits, and some other specialized tools...

I know About EU CMT, but they are from Italy, right? and i read here, that their quality has gone down a bit. So what's the deal with European manufacturers?

Thank you all in advance for your help?

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Welcome to the forum Sasa. I don't know of any EU manufacturer making junk. It's cheaper to have that made in China so no point in it. With that said, a Fine Woodworking router bit test from 2007 rated Whiteside and Eagle America as the best (both made by Whiteside). Lee Valley's bits came in second, Infinity was 3rd I think. Several others scored better than CMT, Freud, or Amana which are the most common "top quality" bits. There are several manufacturers that weren't in the test so no way of knowing how they stack up, such as Onsrud, Leitz, Festool, Precision Bits (Yonico), and Oertli.

There are very few really junk bits being made anymore because every manufacturer I suspect is now using CNC machining.

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Hey, Sasa; welcome!
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Another interesting thread, in my opinion. Charles, Do you know if Katana was in that test group? I've head good things about them, but have never used them personally!

Sasa, Welcome to the Router Forums! This is a super-nice and very helpful group of people that you should find very good to interact with. If you could give us more info in your profile, that will be super helpful on many of our responses. I also have a question for you: Who / where is the vendor of these router bits?

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No it wasn't in there Otis. I believe that Katana is a higher quality line of MLCS and I also heard they were pretty good. I believe I remember BJ giving them a thumbs up quite a while back and I think he tried most of the brands available. The only criticism of the test that I've heard of is that a few brands were missing and more have come online since like Precision Bits but the tests are a bit of an eye opener brand wise. The brands that everyone tends to rely on didn't really do all that well. http://www.whitesiderouterbits.com/T...RouterBits.pdf

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I briefly looked at the Oertli website. Are these tooling pieces intended for handheld or table mounted routers or more for multi axis machining ?

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No it wasn't in there Otis. I believe that Katana is a higher quality line of MLCS and I also heard they were pretty good. I believe I remember BJ giving them a thumbs up quite a while back and I think he tried most of the brands available. The only criticism of the test that I've heard of is that a few brands were missing and more have come online since like Precision Bits but the tests are a bit of an eye opener brand wise. The brands that everyone tends to rely on didn't really do all that well. http://www.whitesiderouterbits.com/T...RouterBits.pdf
Chuck; anything more recent? That test was from 8 years ago. A lot has changed in that time...not all of it good.
I noticed that neither Dimar nor CMT were represented then.

Speaking of DIMAR (you see how I did that segue thing?) I picked up a set of DIMAR 1/4" shank carbide bits a few months ago from KMS Tools...they were virtually giving these sets away.
I bought it because
a) it was a red hot deal
b) I wanted to get more versatility from my two old 1/4" routers
...a Craftsman and my old Ryobi laminate trimmer.

https://www.kmstools.com/dimar-24pc-...t-set-5362+Reg. price...$90
3 day sale price $40. It worked out to $1.66 per bit.
I finally got around to popping a couple of the bits into the trimmer and took them for a test drive; let me just say I'm very pleased!!!
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Just got an e-mail about "NEW Tools from the 2015 AWFS Show"

Does anyone know who is making them?
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Nothing newer that I know of Dan but it seems that Whiteside is still at the top of the list and you have to be careful to get Eagle America as opposed to offshore Eagle from what I hear as well as offshore Amana. Maybe CMT has followed them as some say the quality has gone down. It is time for a new test alright. Maybe I should suggest that to FWW. I believe Dimar is a top end brand. I have one that I had a plan for and still trying to get to it so I can't give a recommendation. Mike (mafoelfen) said something about about getting Dimar saw blades for his new saw. They aren't normally cheap. The bit I got from The Tool Place in Kelowna was a 1/4" shaft 45* chamfer with no bearing and it was $45 about 10 years ago. For some reason I couldn't open the link you gave.

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I briefly looked at the Oertli website. Are these tooling pieces intended for handheld or table mounted routers or more for multi axis machining ?

Gary
They have a lot of stuff, going on there. From usual router bits, like round over and roman ogee to very complex tool for CNC profiling, window and door making, to simple carbide drill bits for mechanical and manual feeds.
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