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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-06-2015, 11:33 PM Thread Starter
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I've recently purchased my first router - a Skil 1817. I also bought a set of 3 Skil roundover router bits thinking that they would fit into the router no problem - first mistake, I suppose.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong - if anything. The bits have 1/4" shanks and the manual says the router should accommodate such bits. The router came with a 1/4" adapter sleeve. Here are the problems I run into trying to insert these router bits: 1) if I put the bit into the collet without the adapter, the collet does not tighten around the shank AT ALL - the bit looks like it's a straw in a martini glass - there is at least 1/8" around all sides of the bit.

Problem 2) the adapter sleeve does not fit into the collet chuck. It is simply too big to fit into the collet chuck. What am I doing wrong? Did I buy the wrong type of bits? Is the adapter sleeve defective? Am I a moron? Is my router a moron? How far do you think I could throw my router? I am sincerely P.O.d at this point and was very close to chucking my router through the window. Please help.
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Hello and welcome to forum.
watch this vedio see if that helps, https://m.youtube.com/watch?autoplay=1&v=eMOXvhFLEaI
also do you have a 1/4" sleeve or a 1/4" collet
if you have collet it is installed in the nut
if it is a sleeve it slides into the 1/2" collet
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Welcome to the forum . I looked at your manual and I can't see why your having an issue as it looks fairly cut and dry .
The only thing I can possibly thinnk of is that you didn't loosen the collet enough to get the adapter sleeve to seat in ?
I'm thinking back the collet off till it actually comes off and then see if this adapter sleeve will fit

I donít always insulate , but when I do .
Ok ,I never insulate
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If you tried to tighten the nut down onto a 1/4" shaft, then you have almost certainly squeezed the collet too tight, stopping the 1/2" sleeve from sliding inside it.
Remove the nut and collet completely, push the adaptor inside. If it doesnt fit, then you might need to use a mallet to persuade it to fit. If you have to hit hard, then you have squeezed it beyond safe and should buy a new collet.
Then put it all back in the router.

Being this new to routers, heres a safety warning you had better pay attention to.

The cutter bit shaft needs to be set all the way in before tightening.
Make sure the nut is T.I.G.H.T.!!!!
A loose or over extended router cutter is like a ninja death star. Its turning at 30,000 revs per minute, and its gonna fly off and do very serious personal injury.
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"The cutter bit shank needs to be set all the way in before tightening."
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I know what you're saying, Bob, but you didn't mention that he needs to lift the bit shaft back up an 1/8" after bottoming out...ie he needs an 1/8" clearance at the bottom of the chuck.

Another option is to start all over again with 1/2" shank bits
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Another option is to start all over again with 1/2" shank bits
I like this idea the best . Not liking the idea of adapters to accommodate smaller bits all that much

I donít always insulate , but when I do .
Ok ,I never insulate
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If you tried to tighten the nut down onto a 1/4" shaft, then you have almost certainly squeezed the collet too tight, stopping the 1/2" sleeve from sliding inside it.
I think you called it

I donít always insulate , but when I do .
Ok ,I never insulate
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Dan, yes, its almost impossible to give advice to newbies without making it more complicated than the manual, which nobody ever reads because its too complicated (g).
so I erred on the side of safety.

I love my router table, I'm learning to do things on it I once thought I needed a lot of other tools for, but it is without doubt, the most dangerous machine for novices that I have ever worked with.
the thought of a cutter coming adrift at those speeds gives me the shivers.

Rick, I have more `1/4" shank bits than 1/2" at this stage, they work fine as long as you dont expect them to to do manly jobs on baulks of hardwood. But the sleeve does need to be inserted flush with the collet mouth, with (as Dan says) an 1/8" or so clearance between bit and chuck.
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Some adaptor sleeves have a flange on one end. To install it you remove the collet nut and put the sleeve in before re-installing the nut. I don't like sleeves, but instead like to use adaptors for each diameter bit. Malcolm / Kentucky USA
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Can you post a picture of what you have and the problem. Also are you sure of the dimensions of the bit and collar?
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