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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-22-2016, 03:12 AM Thread Starter
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Default Sommerfeld Tools router bit sets

I know this question has been asked in the past. Those post are three (3) years old now and I have heard the CMT is no longer making the Router Bits for Sommerfeld Tools. Don't quote me on that I don't even remember where I read it. I have noticed that when looking up CMT Router bit sets they have the Sommerfeld name on the box. That can just be old web pages as far as I can tell.

To the gist of why I am posting I am in the process of making a complete kitchen remodel for my elderly parents and will be going all out with as many bells and whistles that I can install for them. I want to do a rounded cabinet style cabinets and really like the videos from Mark Sommerfeld on YouTube. He uses his table with his bits to make some awesome looking cabinets among other wood working items.

So my question(s) is has anyone used the sets Sommerfeld Tools sale? I.E. 6 piece cabinet making set item 06001
Are they durable? Not like the harbor freight of router bit sets.(Although I have in the past purchased a cabinet bit set from there and even built several cabinets until the bits wore out) I want quality to produce quality.
Also and a little off topic has anyone used Sommerfeld Tools jigs?
I.E. easy set up jig, Easy hinge boring jig, hardware marking jig.

I figure I am about to drop 1197.00 in router bits and jigs I want to make sure that the bits work and work well.
router bit sets I am looking to purchase include the Following:
8-piece Incra/Jointech set. - model 08001( because I am purchasing an Incra router table combo#3 also)
3-piece Tongue and groove set - model 03004 (doing cabinets the old way is not fun)( don't want to use biscuits or Dowels)
6-piece Cabinet making set - Model 06001
Sommerfeld angle making set - model 08002
3-Piece glass door set - model 03003

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I don't have any of Sommerfield's jigs but I do have three of his sets including tongue and groove and a couple of the rail and stiles sets. I like them and the main reason is his selling point that when switching bits I do not have to adjust the height. When edging boards with the tongue and groove set, the alignment is as good as with my Domino. That's been my experience. JimE
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I have several sets, including the glass panel and Shaker door set. They are great, seem very well made and the matched feature is really nice. I have the easy set jig for setting his brand of bits. What makes this so nice to use is that it adjusts to the thickness of the workpiece, so setup is very precise and easy. You may find yourself not bothering with test pieces after awhile. I fear I sometimes sound like a shill for the company, but Sommerfeld has earned my respect by producing good (if a little pricey) products. There are many brands of bits and jigs out there, but I think Sommerfeld's are hard to beat. His videos have been among the most helpful I've seen and I have the full set. Lots of good technique and he stays with the process all the way through so you don't miss a thing, or a trick.
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Thanks all,
What better advice can one get ? Those that have been there and done it. That have first hand experience on those things, that some of us are about to embark upon. I love this site and all the helpful advice that can be found within by a multitude of sources you the woodworkers yourselves. I will post back once I get my own Sommerfeld router bit sets and let everyone know how they worked out.
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Hey Jack,,, me again

Sommerfeld is some good stuff!!! Even if Mark has resourced his bits, I'd bet a dollar to a donut that he has em spec'd out to meet the same high standards of the old bits.
Bout the only jig of his I have is the "Easy Set-up jig"...works beautifully!!
As far as router bits go, I have the "Ultimate Rabbet" set, 6 piece "Joint making" set, 12 piece 3-wingslot cutting set, 3 piece glue joint set and a couple of singles...only ever had one problem. A small chunk of a cutter broke off. I contacted Sommerfeld, advised them as to what had happened and they said they'd replace it as soon as I sent it back to em. Fair enough I thought. Couple of weeks went by and nothing,,, couple more weeks and still nothing, finally I got a bit anxious and made a call. After a little digging, I guess they just lost my bit in the sauce somewhere.. They were indeed, very kind about it, shipped the replacement the next day. In two days I not only had my bit but they sent along the entire DVD collection as an apology. Now not too much surprises my wife when it comes to my wood working stuff, but she was floored by this, thoroughly impressed by the company...as am I

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@TwoSkies57 I've had a couple of interactions with Mark and staff, not problems, but suggestions. Aren't those videos great? Really walks you through the process. And I like the wooden cases in which the bit sets are packaged. Very protective. I think I learned more from those than any other videos.

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Thanks Twoskies57 Great info you have provided. I received an email from Sommerfeld Tools today. Answering my questions that I had and I was impressed with their response. Going to let me have a military discount. Which is really awesome they don't have too. I just have to prove that I am a Veteran. That is not hard, sent them a scan of my Veteran's ID Card. I hope to hear back from them tomorrow I will be ordering all of my bits from there along with the videos to refresh the old brain. There are so many ways to build a cabinet now days. I will also order the jigs especially the easy set-up jig. The eyes are not the same any more the meds the VA doctors have me on are affecting my eye sight. I will also be moving forward with the Incra table purchase and your input there along with others was extremely insightful and educational. I am going to have to practice like I was back in woodshop in high school and try to forget all the things I know old school and embrace new ways a doing things. I have shied away from dovetails but not anymore.
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CMT, Freud, and Amana were all on par with each other when tested by Fine Woodworking in 2007. Whiteside and Eagle America (which I've always heard was made by Whiteside) tested at the very top but would lack the set up ease of the Sommerfeld set. If CMT no longer makes the Sommerfeld bits I'm sure Marc would make sure that they are at least as good as they were before. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would settle for something inferior. I haven't dealt with him that much because of the border and shipping issues but the CS was top notch.

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@CM1 Jack, I also have their Katey Jig for cutting dovetails on the router table. It is much easier to use than conventional dovetail jig. The videos will show how to use it. There are other great brands and versions of the table top dovetail jig, including one that is much larger. I just like doing business with Sommerfeld and don't need the extra long jig.

If you are going to use pocket screws to assemble cabinet carcasses, you can get the Kreg setup (K4 kit works fine). Pocket hole construction is remarkably strong, and if you add glue, joints aren't going to come apart. You have to think carefully about where to place the screws so they are not visible.

If you're going to assemble using rabbits and dados plus glue, you might consider one of the precise fit devices or a home made jig. I have and like the DadoWiz, but there are several other devices out there. I know Rockler has one and I have seen others. Here is a video on a shop made exact fit dado jig, which is a good option:

With most of the commercial devices you'll need a straight edge guide that fits the device. Some of these come with clamps, but they lose their grip after awhile, so you'll need regular clamps to make it work.

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I want to THANK all who responded to my question on which router bits to buy. I waited and just purchased a Craftsman 30 piece Router Bit set on sale for $69.99, but I used my Sears points and actually got the set for $45.00. the guys told me what to look for and this set has everything I will need to get started. The router forum community has been fantastic and the advice one gets is great. I'm getting ready to start on a project once the weather finally gets nice out. Again Thanks for all the helpful advice.

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