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I'm sorry to read about your incident and hope you aren't in any pain as well as wish you a complete and rapid recovery.

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You know Bryan, it never hurt except for the initial Bang and then it was numb. Didn't bleed for 20 minutes or so later. I but a band aid on it and kept working. Then noticed it running down my arm, so packed it with gauze and put a rubber glove on it, and went back to work, pretty soon that was soaked, so wrapped it in a wash cloth and put pressure on it, that helped but soon soaked, about then decided I better go get it fixed.
5 hrs. later I was home again, I hate to go to ER, sit and wait. I could have been out of there in 20 minutes if they would have fixed it and sent me home.
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You know Bryan, it never hurt except for the initial Bang and then it was numb. Didn't bleed for 20 minutes or so later. I but a band aid on it and kept working. Then noticed it running down my arm, so packed it with gauze and put a rubber glove on it, and went back to work, pretty soon that was soaked, so wrapped it in a wash cloth and put pressure on it, that helped but soon soaked, about then decided I better go get it fixed.
5 hrs. later I was home again, I hate to go to ER, sit and wait. I could have been out of there in 20 minutes if they would have fixed it and sent me home.
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Herb, glad you made out OK. That's pretty weird how the pusher exploded. I too have plastic pushers and have nicked the blade on occasion, never with that result, thank goodness!

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I never liked pusher sticks and have always used some form of shop made pusher that held the work down as well as pushed it forward. Sixty years ago when I was first learning how to use a table saw and other power woodworking tools, my uncle told me to "never ever do anything on a table saw that requires putting any part of you within 6 inches of the blade or bit.Stop, and find another way to do it." That rule was deeply embedded into my brain while working with him and it has kept me safe all these years. He also showed me how to make pushers that held the work down as well as pushed it forward. You need to hold the whole piece down, not just the back edge.

About 8 years ago I bought two Grrippers, but it was almost 2 years later before I could get myself to use them close in and for small pieces. When you use them your hand passes above the blade, and frequently it's only about 1 1/2" above. This violated that 6" rule that was so deeply engrained in my head and it made me very nervous about using them until I managed to convince myself that there was this heavy piece of plastic between my hand and the blade, and that as long as I hung onto the handle I was safe. Adding to this, if you ever cut into any part of a Grripper, you will discover that it emits a very strong and unique odor which will immediately tell your brain that something is wrong. It's an unadvertised safety feature. I've never smelled anything like it, and I only nicked one of the side pieces.

Once I got past the 6" rule to accept the Grrippers I began to appreciate how well they worked, if I took a moment before each cut to adjust them and the blade height correctly. I made a doll house size horse barn for my grand daughter that required making many 1/8" strips and L shaped corner trim. I doubt that I could have made them safely without the Grrippers. I even made corral fences glued together from 1/8" thick strips.

Along with and before the Grrippers, I have frequently made push blocks, sometimes even from 2 X 6 and 2 X 8 or thinner material, like 1/4 - 3/4 Baltic Birch that always has an L shaped cut in the bottom so it will hold the work down as well as push it, and a handle high enough to be above 6" from the blade. These pushers are always long enough to be a minimum of about 1/3 of the length of the cut and I always set the blade height to be about a tooth above the work, and always do a kind-of dry run to make sure everything will go well. If the blade will be passing closely along side of my pusher I will glue a block below the handle piece that the blade will hit before it reaches my hand.

I've seen guys hold little tiny pieces of wood and push it along with their fingers while hooking a couple of fingers over the top of the fence, and I cringe when I see them do this. Then I try to convince them of a safer way to do it.

Herb, I'm sorry to see that you had this unfortunate experience, but I'm glad that you didn't loose any body parts in the process. I hope you completely heal soon. I also hope you have learned a lesson about push sticks and saw safety. Grrippers are great, but bigger shop made pushers that also hold the work down are quite safe too. I'll have to take some pictures of some of mine and post them.

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Herb I'm just blown away at the outcome of that push stick . I'm certainly glad you didn't hurt any worse than you did . This goes to show that even a seasoned pro can have an incident .
I'm going to take a look at my pushsticks , and if they have empty voids like that there going in the dumpster .

Hope your hand heals quickly, and I can hardly imagine how soar it is . Btw , I'm liking your wood push stick idea

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I'd be willing to venture its more the materials used to make up the push stick than the design. It looks like shock wave traveled up thru the material ..The blade caught that thing just right........BANG!

glad a couple stitches is all you got out of it Herb...heal well, and heal fast!!
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Man, what a great safety lesson for all of us, and only cost him 7 stitches. Take heed, grasshopper, that blade is spinning far faster than you can react.
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Sorry to hear of you mishap Herb, hope recovery is swift. I'm also in the Grippeeeer camp owning two.
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Wow, Herb... I'm glad your injury wasn't worse, though I'm sure it hurt like hell anyway, and I'm really glad that you decided to post this so that we all could learn from your mishap. I don't own plastic pushers, largely because I'm too cheap so I've made my own, but after seeing this I wouldn't ever buy a plastic one.
These are my homemade pushers. The big one has a replaceable piece of 1/4 plywood on the back end.

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WOW!!

Herb, glad it was superficial and not dismemberment. Reattachments are rare with saw blades – they chew things up too bad.
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