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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-22-2017, 04:45 PM
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Dust collection can work very effectively for the larger woodworking machinery, but the smaller powered hand tools are usually the worst offenders at letting dust get into the shop air and hand held routing is likely one of the worst offenders, even though some now have collection shrouds around the bit area.

Noise control can also be difficult. Solid concrete or filled block walls will be very effective at blocking noise transmitted horizontally, but wood framed walls can be effective, if the wall is made double thick with no horizontal connection between them, and both walls are packed with Roxul or fiberglass bats and then sheathed with 1" + of sheetrock. A slotcut in the concrete floor between these two walls will stop noise transmission through the floor. Ceiling treatment will require several layers of solid sheet material, followed by thick layers of fiberglass or Roxul to stop the noise too.

Even after doing all of this, you won't likely totally eliminate the noise penetration, but you will lower it significantly.

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I just re read your original post and noticed the size was pretty compact. So I'm going to change my suggestion about using drops. Use a 4 inch flex hose. I have a backyard shop that's about double that size, so let me show you one wall of that shed. Tightly packed, all tools on mobile bases, not stands with spread legs or space eating changable stands. The picture from left to right: 10 inche band saw, sander on stand with storage underneath, 10 inch sliding miter with plastic shower curtain, 2hp HF dust collector with drum filter, corner full of shelves to hold jigs and misc. stuff. Open area and high shelving for storage and my table saw jigs. Table saw placed so I can cut up to a 9 foot long piece. The wall next to the table saw is covered with pegboard and holds clamps and a variety of accessories. The other half of the shop is for assembly and finishing.

In a smaller shop, I'd build a deck and put large casters on most things so I could drag it outside when the weather permitted. I seem to build a lot of outdoor stuff and picture frames, so outdoors for large and indoors for small projects works for me.

Just making adjustments based on your shop size. I posted on the notion that a budget was wide open.
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I am planning a new purpose built woodwork workshop which will be as dustless as possible. It will be passive solar or having large glassed openings to the low winter sun.

The plan includes a central room which will be about 3Meters long x about 2Meters wide. This room will be the ventilation source for the workshop around it. Ventilation will be accomplished by an air purifier fan which will draw air into the central room from the external roof and or walls through sound baffled air vents into the central room and out again through an appropriate location to eradicate the effect on neighbours.

The room will also house the dust extractors and be used for storage. The dust vacuums will serve workbenches around it.

Is there anyone there at Router Forums who has ventilation and sound proofing experience who could help in making this basic design brief?

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Sounds like you have a good plan . I put the cyclone and filters along with the aircompresrer in a sound proof room to keep the noise out of the work area.
I filled the stud spaces with Rock Wool Sound batt insulation and stapled moving blankets from Harbor freight over the face of the studs, and the ceiling in the room. I have a 3 hp. motor on a 12" fan with a Oneida Cyclone and 2 wynn filters. The air being sucked into the room has to be vented back out into the shop through as register, but the noise level is below conversation level. I also have an overhead air filter that is plugged into the light circuit ,so that the filter is on when the lights are on and off when I leave the shop.
I also built a 8" square box column with a 6" duct out the top and 6 ports with 2-6'diam. blast gates and 4-4" diam blast gate, and I configured a bandsaw, tablesaw, jointer, planer, and 2 router tables around this column.
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A lot of ways to skin a cat, huh?

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Has anyone tried the new "mesh" type masks?

M2 Mesh Face Masks, Safety Green | Rockler Woodworking and Hardware

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Where did you get the oversize blower blades from please?
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