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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-20-2017, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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I am planning a new purpose built woodwork workshop which will be as dustless as possible. It will be passive solar or having large glassed openings to the low winter sun.

The plan includes a central room which will be about 3Meters long x about 2Meters wide. This room will be the ventilation source for the workshop around it. Ventilation will be accomplished by an air purifier fan which will draw air into the central room from the external roof and or walls through sound baffled air vents into the central room and out again through an appropriate location to eradicate the effect on neighbours.

The room will also house the dust extractors and be used for storage. The dust vacuums will serve workbenches around it.

Is there anyone there at Router Forums who has ventilation and sound proofing experience who could help in making this basic design brief?

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Hey Peter how are you. I can't help you any but it sure sounds nice.

By the way welcome.

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Depending on your climate, pulling outside air in is likely to cause heat to escape during cold weather, and AC air inside to leave when hot. Also, unless the shop is huge, placing all this in the middle means it will be in the way of practically everything. Consider moving the DC system to one side. I recall seeing a huge, shop built double filter column with a shop made box on top and bottom. The top to feed air into the double filter, the bottom to catch the sawdust. Have a cyclone system in front of that as a chip collector, and then the blower. This setup allows you to keep the cool/warm air inside the shop with the least possible heat or AC loss.

If I were doing this, I'd use metal or pvc pipe running across the ceiling to each of the tools, with blast gates at every tool so you can close off tools not in use.

Hang 2-3 WEN air filters so they create a flow of air. An hour or two will clear pretty much everything. I would also make certain you had DC atop the table saw as well as below. Every tool should have DC on the top surface.

For chop saws, consider hanging a shower curtain around it, gathered at the bottom into a DC port.

Use as few, short flexible hoses as you can.

Since you're building new, invest in an industrial, 220v DC unit. I like the Laguna commercial cyclone shop units, but there are many other good cyclone machines.

And, I'd still wear a positive ventilation dust mask and have a couple of spares for anyone else coming into the shop.

You might also consider adding a really strong vacuum port into which you can plug a long hose. No matter how carefully you do collection, some sawdust will wind up spraying around.

Put doors and drawers on all stands and storage to help keep sawdust out. Put as many items as possible on casters so you can pull them out of the way when you vacuum the floor. The worst thing you can use are open shelves. The sawdust will get in there and you'll never get it completely sawdust free.

Build a finishing area as far as possible from the cutting areas, or hang clear plastic sheeting over the opening to that area to block sawdust intrusion.

If you build on a concrete slab, have it sealed and finished, preferably in a light color or even white. Much easier to keep it clean. Get an oiled dust push broom and run it over the floor from time to time.

I'm assuming that your budget is sufficient to cover new construction. If I were doing this, I'd construct the walls using 2x6 studs and put in R38 insulation in the walls along with radiant bubble style wrap. At least the same insulation in the ceiling. I'd drywall everything.

I'd run 220 and lots of 110v plugs all over the place. I'd color code plugs on each circuit so I could avoid too much load on any one circuit. Separate circuits for the AC, heat and lighting--which would be warm LEDs. I'd use recessed lighting fixtures to help seal the dust out and keep it from accumulating on fixtures.

I'd put a bathroom in there too, depending on the local construction regs.

Always fun contemplating how you'd spend someone else's money on a shop.
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Hi, desert rat. Would you have a picture of the dust collection collum you described?
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Do a Google Search for " Desoto Solar Heating Panels". They are passive panels that work without any power requirements. If I was building a new home or shop and could include this design I would go with it.

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I agree, designing such a shop is nearly impossible dustless that is. I have been playing with my little shop for quite some time and although not perfect it is much healthier and cleaner than it ever was...
I'm using this 2HP with oversized after market blower blades.....
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Good luck on having a dustless shop. I find that my shop is dustless until I go into it and start working.
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Hi Hawkeye Don
I'm reasonably well, and work at staying well with as dustless a workshop as possible. Thank you for the encouragement.
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Hi, desert rat. Would you have a picture of the dust collection collum you described?
This is the 3hp Laguna, $2500 with the heppa filter. This vents out inside the shop if you wish. There are many other brands and types, and sizes. This would be OK for a pretty serious shop, but a lightweight compared to the really big units.
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Here is a picture showing the ducting (drops) going to each machine. Blast gates in the ducts at each machine will keep the air flow up.
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