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post #11 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-09-2018, 11:30 PM
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Default Perhaps starter of this thread is TOTALLLY wrong

Let's get the facts right first..
1. She was JUST using the jointer (with blades down) as an "infeed table" to her router table.
2. The router bit in a router table cannot get her hair.
3. Her gloves are for friction and protection against wood spinsters ONLY.

Why would people assume that she was using a JOINTER when the subject is ROUTER SAFETY and not JOINTER (joiner) safety?

(e.g. I often use my tablesaw with blade totally down and guard off as infeed table to my Planer Thicknesser. That's why all my machines are at the same level)

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Well no, Reuel, the topic was "Best Shop Safety Practices".
Pretty sure Vince didn't mention routers. He actually referred to the jointer she was using.
http://www.routerforums.com/shop-saf...ml#post1922466
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Well no, Reuel, the topic was "Best Shop Safety Practices".
Pretty sure Vince didn't mention routers. He actually referred to the jointer she was using.
http://www.routerforums.com/shop-saf...ml#post1922466
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"Routers are another piece of equipment that have their own safety rules. Unfortunately, not all of these rules are as obvious or well known as our table saw example above. If you’ve never stopped to think about staying safe specifically while using a router,....."

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I'm not going down the 'He said ...He said path'; I'm merely pointing out that your comments are perhaps a tad aggressive, and not really in the spirit of respecting other members, and their opinions.
Just my take on the comments.
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I'm not going down the 'He said ...He said path'; I'm merely pointing out that your comments are perhaps a tad aggressive, and not really in the spirit of respecting other members, and their opinions.
Just my take on the comments.
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings or anyone else's feelings.
I have not login to Router Forum for more than 15 years until I found on Google last week that there is a thread started 9 years ago 8th May 2009 called "Looking for Reuel'. Someone wanted me to help.

I am only here to help if I can and I sense that some people may think that I am trying to take over their domain and try to shut me up and so I can get aggressive.

Reason I stayed away was because someone then called me a troll just because I was arguing that IMHO the Imperial system is superior to the metric system for WOODWORKING.

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Let's get the facts right first..
1. She was JUST using the jointer (with blades down) as an "infeed table" to her router table.
2. The router bit in a router table cannot get her hair.
3. Her gloves are for friction and protection against wood spinsters ONLY.

Why would people assume that she was using a JOINTER when the subject is ROUTER SAFETY and not JOINTER (joiner) safety?

(e.g. I often use my tablesaw with blade totally down and guard off as infeed table to my Planer Thicknesser. That's why all my machines are at the same level)
1. First, the equipment she is using looks like a jointer - why do you assume she's using it as an "infeed table to her router table". There is no evidence of that
2. A router bit cannot get her hair - seriously??? Try hanging some shredded material next to a spinning bit and see what happens.
3. Her gloves are for friction and protection against splinters only? I agree they are for friction, but, they are loose. Never have any loose clothing when using power tools with spinning blades/bits.

The topic of the article is "Best Shop Safety Practices" not restricted to routers.

And per your example given, I'm sure a lot of people use other equipment as an infeed table, but that's got nothing to do with the article.


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"Routers are another piece of equipment that have their own safety rules. Unfortunately, not all of these rules are as obvious or well known as our table saw example above. If you’ve never stopped to think about staying safe specifically while using a router,....."
The portion of the article that you quoted refers to the first paragraph above it. They discussed safety issues around a table saw, and then continues to discuss safety issues around routers, but has nothing to do with the picture they posted.

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I am sorry if I hurt your feelings or anyone else's feelings.
I have not login to Router Forum for more than 15 years until I found on Google last week that there is a thread started 9 years ago 8th May 2009 called "Looking for Reuel'. Someone wanted me to help.

I am only here to help if I can and I sense that some people may think that I am trying to take over their domain and try to shut me up and so I can get aggressive.

Reason I stayed away was because someone then called me a troll just because I was arguing that IMHO the Imperial system is superior to the metric system for WOODWORKING.
You didn't hurt my feelings, but I cannot speak for others and I don't believe that anyone thinks you are trying to take over a domain or that anyone is trying to "shut you up". If you feel that way, then that explains your aggressive attitude. You offer your opinion as do others, but that doesn't make anyone right or wrong. People can disagree with other's opinions, but for the most part, and I've been here for about 6 years, I've noticed that regardless of a difference of opinion, most members of this forum are at the very least, respectful of others. This forum is generally a very friendly place - some of the members have become friends with others and have spoken personally or by phone. New members come and go, but there are a lot of folks here that have been here for a long time. The reason for that is that they are willing to help others, to offer their knowledge and experience, they are respected, and they respect others. Respect is the key.

I cannot speak to you're being called a troll as I wasn't on the forum then, and I'm not going to argue the virtues of the Imperial system versus the metric system as I think that comes with what an individual is comfortable with. And I'm not suggesting that you take another 15 year hiatus, as it appears you have the ability and willingness to help, but if you are going to stick around, and post responses, my suggestion is that you do so in a more friendly, respectful manner.

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What’s a woman doing in a shop anyways , especially when there’s cooking and cleaning to be done ? I realize this probably is not meant to be taken seriously. However, with that said, I do not believe this type of a comment should ever be aloud to pass and go out to the rest of the world. This Forum has a very high rating among the Woodworking community. These kind of remarks have no place on the Forum. That is a personal opinion. I think whoever monitors these comments is failing in there responsibility to monitor. I know this may be controversial on my part. I do not mean to demean or insult anyone. I truly believe there is no place for this on public forums or where many people read to enhance and learn.
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Rain Man,

What’s a woman doing in a shop anyways , especially when there’s cooking and cleaning to be done ? I realize this probably is not meant to be taken seriously. However, with that said, I do not believe this type of a comment should ever be aloud to pass and go out to the rest of the world. This Forum has a very high rating among the Woodworking community. These kind of remarks have no place on the Forum. That is a personal opinion. I think whoever monitors these comments is failing in there responsibility to monitor. I know this may be controversial on my part. I do not mean to demean or insult anyone. I truly believe there is no place for this on public forums or where many people read to enhance and learn.
It is allowed, not aloud. I would be very interested in reading what one, or more, of the women on this forum has to say on this. I thought it was funny, and in no way sincere. And I think the monitors here are doing a pretty darn good job, certainly a lot better than I have seen on a bunch of other forums, I don't really see a need for them to step in on such a minor thing. But that's me.
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What’s a woman doing in a shop anyways , especially when there’s cooking and cleaning to be done ?
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In case anyone doubts the power wielded by women, note how often members here talk about getting their spouse's support for new tool necessities. They live longer and control the money in the end. Women also make most of the life altering decisions, and generally take better care of their health and money. The stats don't generally favor men. My wife and I celebrate our 20th anniversary today. Started late, finishing strong.
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