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I think this is the same one you posted Doug. The price is much better then the first one I looked at , but wondering about comfort . Maybe a guy will regret not getting the other one later on
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The rockler mask blows a little air under my glasses so they don't fog up. It's pretty comfortable on my ample schnoz.

Tom...which Rockler one...? The Power Mask...?

It seems to be unavailable at Rockler or anywhere else for that matter...some places say "discontinued"...

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Any fall face respirator needs to be fitted to you or you need to be where you have different sizes available to try. I’m currently back at my seasonal fertilizer job which includes delivering anhydrous ammonia to farmers. The respirators have to fit without leaking or they are nearly useless. These aren’t positive pressure type and positive pressure ones will work better but it’s still safer if they don’t leak and all the exhaust air goes out the exhaust valve. I wear a large in MSA brand. You might be okay with just a proper fitting full face respirator with OV (organic vapour) canisters on it or you may need something with hepa rated filtration depending on your sensitivity to the allergens and their size range (likely very small). The finer the filtration, the more expensive they are and the more often they need to be replaced especially if there is no pre-filtration. Ideally pre-filtration would be washable to keep costs down. If you are cutting mdf in the shop I wouldn’t remove the mask or hood until you walk out and finish brushing yourself off.

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Tom, my eye went off the deep end mowing the grass . I did not get impacted by anything .
Itís happened before,but never this serious .
So I pretty need total protection,so whether I like it or not , I think I have to go further in debt and go with the 3M system .
I was also debating to get one of those air filter systems that you hang also .



Joat, I canít wear googles , as they fog up almost immediately
i think a squirrel cage fan from an old furnace like this moves a bunch more air than the air cleaners you hang up. my A/C guy will hook me up with one and wire it for different speeds when im ready. for now im using three 20" box fans with merv 13 filters. have one pointed in different directions to circulate best.works great low cost


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i think a squirrel cage fan from an old furnace like this moves a bunch more air than the air cleaners you hang up. my A/C guy will hook me up with one and wire it for different speeds when im ready. for now im using three 20" box fans with merv 13 filters. have one pointed in different directions to circulate best.works great low cost


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Thatís one hell of an idea . The only bad thing would be using real estate , but Iím sure I could make it work . The nice part is cheap filters
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Any fall face respirator needs to be fitted to you or you need to be where you have different sizes available to try. Iím currently back at my seasonal fertilizer job which includes delivering anhydrous ammonia to farmers. The respirators have to fit without leaking or they are nearly useless. These arenít positive pressure type and positive pressure ones will work better but itís still safer if they donít leak and all the exhaust air goes out the exhaust valve. I wear a large in MSA brand. You might be okay with just a proper fitting full face respirator with OV (organic vapour) canisters on it or you may need something with hepa rated filtration depending on your sensitivity to the allergens and their size range (likely very small). The finer the filtration, the more expensive they are and the more often they need to be replaced especially if there is no pre-filtration. Ideally pre-filtration would be washable to keep costs down. If you are cutting mdf in the shop I wouldnít remove the mask or hood until you walk out and finish brushing yourself off.
I have a pretty fat head , so fitting is a concern . I am actually disappointed with my new Apple XS phone with facial recognition. My co-worker held a basket ball up to it , and it unlocked
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Rick, I have had a British - made Racal positive pressure face shield for a long time (more than 20 years). Polycarbonate face shield (theoretically replaceable when scratched), has a rechargeable battery pack in the headband itself, replaceable filter also in the headband, came with a little air manometer which showed when the filter was losing efficiency, needed changing. I bought it after reading a recommendation by Richard Raffan, the New Zealand turning maestro. I am not sure if the company still exists - the product may have outlasted them.
Works great for turning, but I cannot use over-the-ear noise protectors (3M) with it, and I find the in-ear types do not stay in my ears. As I get older and deafer, I find my self more intolerant of loud noises, especially tools in a confined space. Turning is just bearable, provided there is no chatter on a spindle.
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Rick, I have had a British - made Racal positive pressure face shield for a long time (more than 20 years). Polycarbonate face shield (theoretically replaceable when scratched), has a rechargeable battery pack in the headband itself, replaceable filter also in the headband, came with a little air manometer which showed when the filter was losing efficiency, needed changing. I bought it after reading a recommendation by Richard Raffan, the New Zealand turning maestro. I am not sure if the company still exists - the product may have outlasted them.
Works great for turning, but I cannot use over-the-ear noise protectors (3M) with it, and I find the in-ear types do not stay in my ears. As I get older and deafer, I find my self more intolerant of loud noises, especially tools in a confined space. Turning is just bearable, provided there is no chatter on a spindle.
Iím hoping the face shield is replaceable with the 3M system . Hate to buy the entire head gear if it gets scratched.
So far all Iíve seen is a replaceable filter . A super expensive one .I wish they just had the same round cartridges they use on their other masks

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Iím hoping the face shield is replaceable with the 3M system . Hate to buy the entire head gear if it gets scratched.
So far all Iíve seen is a replaceable filter . A super expensive one .I wish they just had the same round cartridges they use on their other masks
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Faceshield...SIN=B00SCHRVFK

These little guys go on the front. They take a beating then you peel them off and put a new one on. Were in use WAAAAAY before someone started doing the same thing on smart phones...
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i think a squirrel cage fan from an old furnace like this moves a bunch more air than the air cleaners you hang up...
I just read a review in one of the woodworking mags and a box fan with 20" filter is nearly as effective as many. Even better than some in some ways.

Tim, yours with the multiple filters would probably be the top tool! Good idea using it as a tool stand, that way you're not using too much space.
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