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In my country there is no easily available book-of-rules, and everyone is on his own about how to make the work safer for himself and the others. Between the British (who, imho, overdo it with safety) and the Greeks (who don't like precaution measures at all) what would your case be?

From my own experience - much more as an orthopaedic surgeon and much less as a woodworker - hazards and accidents start with bad mood, tiredness and loss of concentration on the work in hand. Thinking of the dozens (hundreds??) of carpenters I looked after over the years, it has always been a case of "hurry to give out the piece to get paid", "the **** who told me off - bla bla - " the wife who is never happy", other people calling while the tool is spinning etc.

I would very much appreciate any comments on this - do you work late? do you let others interrrupt you? are you lazy enough to just carry on when you see that you need to stop and lubricate etc?? do you work when upset or depressed??
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Interesting topic, I shall enjoy following it, perhaps learn a bit.

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In my country there is no easily available book-of-rules, and everyone is on his own about how to make the work safer for himself and the others. Between the British (who, imho, overdo it with safety) and the Greeks (who don't like precaution measures at all) what would your case be?

From my own experience - much more as an orthopaedic surgeon and much less as a woodworker - hazards and accidents start with bad mood, tiredness and loss of concentration on the work in hand. Thinking of the dozens (hundreds??) of carpenters I looked after over the years, it has always been a case of "hurry to give out the piece to get paid", "the **** who told me off - bla bla - " the wife who is never happy", other people calling while the tool is spinning etc.

I would very much appreciate any comments on this - do you work late? do you let others interrrupt you? are you lazy enough to just carry on when you see that you need to stop and lubricate etc?? do you work when upset or depressed??
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I think we can all tell of times when an accident has occured and of those times when distraction etc. were the cause, or neglect is maybe more of an issue here, I have experienced both of these and fortunately have never had anything so serious as to be permanent. Once when using the bandsaw I heard a noise and turned my head (silly me) only to cut the tip of my finger more than half way, I just bandaged it with insulation tape and carried on, and not until the end of the day did I examine it and dress it properly. When working as a construction surpervisor, on a frosty morning I ducked under the scaffold to enter the building, (I did not have a chinstrap engaged on my safety helmet) caught the helmet on a scaffold clip and opened up my head to about three inches, not nice, both times due to neglect, and there are others.



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Hurrying and stupidity have caused me to lose the use of one finger and compromised the use of another.

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Hurrying and stupidity have caused me to lose the use of one finger and compromised the use of another.



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When I worked sandblasting glass on site, I had a mental "zone" that I entered. There in that zone, time slowed down. It was and is similar to playing a musical piece to an audience (after dress rehearsals and all that). In that zone there is no room for errors. Since sandblasting glass is permanent the situation is even more so. Botch and it's your dime.

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What I try to do is always think through every step of the next task at hand, sometimes even doing a dry run of specific task with electrical power off,do I do this every time --no but it I try, also I think keeping tools and workplace clean makes a big difference especially tools while cleaning actually look them over for any signs of wear/damage and if needed fix or get rid of...I try and do this every time I work in shop..... Also ear plugs,safety glasses are 2 things I always have on.... I hope this helps.

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In most cases, state of mind and common sense (the most uncommon thing in the world) will dictate safety. I go by the maxim- If it doesn't look or feel safe, it probably isn't. Just to stop and think this tool can/will rip/tear parts of my body off should be enough to instill thoughts of safe usage of any tool.

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In my work experience, the majority of incidents occur when the job is thought to be a simple or not dangerous one. It also seems to be the 'last cut of the day', when maybe attention is turning off or the worker is rushed that the incident occurs.

In other cases, the incident occurs because either the proper safety equipment wasn't readily available, or the right tool was not at hand. Since only one cut was going to be made... there was no effort to get the right gear.

Also, failing to trust your gut that things don't feel right is usually a way to ensure a problem....

Unfortunately, I have even observed these symptoms at home from time to time, and it's a challenge to overcome them. It's only one cut, why the dust mask? or blade guard?

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Doctor Dimitri, Being in a hurry or working distracted is a prescription for disaster. For my situations, working with power tools is not a "spectator sport". I have to be in the right frame-of-mind and plan ahead. When the phone rings while I'm in my shop, I usually ignore it. That call can wait. We will never be able to pursue this hobby without safety issues, but many things can be shared (as you've encouraged herein) and learned from. Certainly we learn a lot from our own personal mishaps, but we should also learn from mistakes others have made. When I've run shops, I've been a "stickler" for safety issues. Things like long-sleeved shirts and jewelry can be major hazards! OPG3
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