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Hello Everyone,
I'm a newbe to the forum. I've been woodworking for around 6 years, and have been asked to build an outdoor wooden sign for a friend. My question is what would be the best type of wood for this project. I will be milling this lumber down from rough 5/4 stock which will be 6" wide, so I will also be edge glueing this......1)What type of wood would you recomend. 2) I normally use titebond glue, is there a better type for outdoor use. 3) It needs to be painted so what exterior primer, paint, and finish for durability would you use.
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Hi Lisa

I would use Cedar or Cypress and forgo the glue altogether and just use a T & G joints,,,,,along the long parts of the sign,and for the frame, all lumber will srink in time when is outside in the rain and snow and UV rays of the sun and pull the joint apart anyway or split the wood,,,,,,just make a frame and drive dowel pins in the corners to hold it together with just a bit of out side glue...

One of the best joints for outside signs, is the one below it will help shed the water down and way from thje joints....

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Hello Everyone,
I'm a newbe to the forum. I've been woodworking for around 6 years, and have been asked to build an outdoor wooden sign for a friend. My question is what would be the best type of wood for this project. I will be milling this lumber down from rough 5/4 stock which will be 6" wide, so I will also be edge glueing this......1)What type of wood would you recomend. 2) I normally use titebond glue, is there a better type for outdoor use. 3) It needs to be painted so what exterior primer, paint, and finish for durability would you use.
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Hi bobj3,
I understand the concept your refering to but (I also should have mentioned) that the letters will be raised and the background will be routed out. Also this sign will be identical on the back (2 - sided with same design) If I T&G the long sides and let the ends of the boards float in a frame. My beginning stock size would have to be pretty thick. I have 5/4 stock which I was planning on using but now I'm concerned about the width of the T&G and the removal of the background material. Won't this thin to much material and cause more cupping?????? I'm not sure.
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Hi Lisa

That's the neat thing about the T & G you only will remove the 1/4" wide by 7/16" deep slot ,,,in the center of the stock,,,,
This is what I would T & G all the boards and the long side and the ends, then make a frame to hold them with the same T & G bit set, slide the boards in the frame pin them and let it dry, then router a boarder on the inside edge of the frame about 1 1/2" to 2: wide all the way around, then lay out the sign and route the background out on both sides so the letters stand out from the background......by 3/8" or so....

You may want to just use the standard T & G bits on the long runs on the boards that way it should be fine when you route the background out..


It still should shed the water off but the boards will still open just a bit in time... it's wood and it's always on the move.


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Hi bobj3,
I understand the concept your refering to but (I also should have mentioned) that the letters will be raised and the background will be routed out. Also this sign will be identical on the back (2 - sided with same design) If I T&G the long sides and let the ends of the boards float in a frame. My beginning stock size would have to be pretty thick. I have 5/4 stock which I was planning on using but now I'm concerned about the width of the T&G and the removal of the background material. Won't this thin to much material and cause more cupping?????? I'm not sure.
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Thanks bobj3, I'll let you know how I make out.........Great info
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Lisa, you said the sign had to be painted and most people would say to use oil based primer and paint. I think milk paint whould be a good solution as well. Once that cures it is a nightmare to get off anything. (think of new england barns)
Titebond III is the glue of choice where needed.

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Mike, could you expand on "milk paint" please, it's new to me.

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Mike, could you expand on "milk paint" please, it's new to me.
Harry, Mike can fill you in on all the fine details about this, but here's a couple of web pages with information.

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This is interesting, as I'd like to make a sign as well. Bob- what type of frame are you suggesting, I can't picture what it would look like?

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