Shadow Box - Router Forums
 27Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-26-2018, 10:33 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Frankj3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Country: United States
First Name: Frank
Posts: 675
 
Default Shadow Box

Admins......please move this post if it is not supposed to be in this section.


I've been working on a shadow box for a customer.....one of the projects I can show progress pics of.

I've been making a practice box before I make his actual box. The board he wants me to use for his box is Poplar....not a cheap wood but not the most expensive wood either. Still, it cost enough that I decided to buy a piece of pine to use for my practice box.

I found out the 45° setting on my saw is actually a 43.5° which does not make pretty, or tight fitting 45° corners......and that's why I used a practice board first. So tonight I used my digital indicator and found the true 45° setting. Tomorrow I will re-cut the bevels to see if I can get a better fit on 45° bevels.

I like the shape of the frame face. The sides come up to a 45° bevel, then roll into a 1/2" radius and end up sweeping into the glass. Another first for me with this design.....and another reason for making a practice box first.

Nothing has been sanded.....and probably won't be on this practice box.....so don't be too critical yet.....but it will be sanded and nicely blended in (and HOPEFULLY none of the seams will be visible) when I cut the Poplar boards.

Here are some pics of the practice box. I'll post pics of the finished box when it's ready to be delivered.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_190922.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	1.13 MB
ID:	360349  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_192031.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	530.9 KB
ID:	360351  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_191019.jpg
Views:	95
Size:	567.2 KB
ID:	360353  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_191045.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	500.4 KB
ID:	360355  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_191104.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	663.2 KB
ID:	360357  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_192003.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	1.16 MB
ID:	360359  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20180926_191714.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	761.8 KB
ID:	360361  


Frank

I may not know what I'm doing, but I am having fun doing it wrong!!

Happy Day Veterans!!
Frankj3 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 07:43 AM
Registered User
 
TenGees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Country: Canada
First Name: Paul
Posts: 1,492
 
Default

Looking good so far, Frank.
Frankj3 likes this.

Sent from my Hallicrafters S-40 using morse code.
TenGees is online now  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 07:58 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Country: United States
First Name: mary
Posts: 1,098
 
Default

looking good
Frankj3 likes this.
marecat3 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 08:53 AM
Forum Contributor
 
Gaffboat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Oliver
Posts: 2,072
 
Default

I like that, Frank. The bevel on the face frame is a nice touch.
Frankj3 likes this.

Dragons slain. Damsels rescued. No reasonable request refused ... unless the dragon's really big.

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. ~ Leonardo da Vinci

You can't use up creativity. The more you use, the more you have. ~Oscar Wilde

http://profhenrys.blogspot.com
Gaffboat is online now  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 08:58 AM
Registered User
 
Bushwhacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: David
Posts: 667
 
Default

Good job there Frank. Hope you are doing well. Haven't heard from you in a while.

David
Frankj3 likes this.

When the enemy is in range, so are you.
Bushwhacker is online now  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 10:35 AM
Forum Contributor
 
MEBCWD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 2,934
 
Default

Frank everything looks good so far. I'm sure the project will turn out good with the testing you are doing. I also agree that the profile you are using on the face edge works well for the project.

As you have found it is best to check settings with accurate measuring instruments and not depend on the built in quick stops on the power tools.
Frankj3 likes this.

Mike
Your BRAIN Is The Most Important Power Tool In Your Shop. Turn It On Before You Turn On Any Other Power Tool.
A Disability Is Only A Disability If You Let It Be One
MEBCWD is online now  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 10:55 AM
Forum Contributor
 
DesertRatTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Tom
Posts: 15,563
 
Default

Looks very good. Thank goodness for the digital gauge, I had to do a lot of measuring and test cuts to get a tight fitting miter. Exact matching of opposite side piece lengths is essential, or 45 degree accuracy is moot.

Shadow Box-griz-miter-trimmer_.jpg

I finally bought a Grizzly miter trimmer, see pix. and after that all the rough edges of the miter joint disappeared. CAUTION: the griz is wicked sharp and I cut my finger on it when I unpacked it. The miter trimmer has two wings to hold the pieces, with a stop block on it. However, the wings are really not very well secured and I no longer use them. I match lengths by putting the pieces back to back. Your fingers can detect differences of a couple of thousandths, so this is pretty exact. I cut very precise 45s, usually on my table saw with a Rockler sled. I cut about 1/8th inch long and use the trimmer to slice about 1/16th off each end, with careful length matching on the second piece. When I trial fit, there are rarely any gaps, and the edges are knife edge perfect.

From time to time, I find a bit of a twist or some other irregularity shows up as a mis-fit. If it's not too bad, I use my secret weapon, Tember Mate, which is a wonderful filler that takes stain and finish just like the wood itself. You buy it to match your wood species. It is extremely fine textured and fills even the tiniest gap. It stays put, doesn't shrink and sands smooth. It is an Aussie product available on Amazon. See pix below.

If there is a slight twist or mismatch after glueup, I will sand it down using a shaped sanding block (Rockler), which greatly eases sanding even the most complex shape. I also use 3M Sandblaster Pro, flexible sanding medium, rarely more than 220 grit. The grit lasts forever and takes only a few strokes to produce a baby smooth surface. It also allows rapid evening out of mis-fit joints. I would not use regular sandpaper for this again.

I know what you mean about not wanting to use the good stuff first, which is why I posted this. Fitting mitered corners is equal parts art and craft, and this is how I save the day when there's a glitch.
Attached Images
 
Frankj3 likes this.

The more I do, the less I accomplish.

Last edited by DesertRatTom; 09-27-2018 at 10:59 AM.
DesertRatTom is online now  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 11:10 AM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 14,855
 
Default

The design is good Frank. Part of the problem with the miters might be the blade you are using. The angle doesn't look that bad but it looks like the blade may have been pulled sideways when angling across the grain. I had that problem once and solved it using blade stabilizers. The stabilizers made the blade much more rigid so that it didn't tend to wander back and forth when angling across the grain.
Frankj3 likes this.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 03:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Country: United States
First Name: Larry
Posts: 1,335
 
Default

Looking good Frank. I am sure it will turn out just like you expect it in the end.
Frankj3 likes this.
Knot working is online now  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Frankj3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Country: United States
First Name: Frank
Posts: 675
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
Good job there Frank. Hope you are doing well. Haven't heard from you in a while.

David
David, I have been really busy at my day job. I'm retiring mid-December and my customers are trying to get all they can from me before then. LOL We need to do another lunch or supper gathering.....soon!

Frank

I may not know what I'm doing, but I am having fun doing it wrong!!

Happy Day Veterans!!
Frankj3 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shadow box tdog Show N' Tell 9 11-13-2012 06:09 AM
Shadow Box Jerry Bowen Tools and Woodworking 0 06-22-2012 08:12 AM
Shadow Box to Hide ugly Electric panel box roxanne562001 Show N' Tell 1 03-09-2012 05:40 PM
First Box Joints w/a Hart Design Jig Wild Rag Jigs and Fixtures 2 03-23-2009 08:54 AM
Little shadow box Fourleftpaws Show N' Tell 9 02-09-2009 04:47 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome