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Iím a 76 read old newcomer (beginner) to woodworking. Iím going to start simple by making small yard and garden signs with a Dremel 275 which Iíve had for 10 years and never used. For now Iím okay on the Dremel, but need advice on preserving the old barn wood, drift wood, lumber and the like (all soft) that Iím going to use. The signs - natural wood - will have routed letters, flowers (painted), and assorted designs (some painted).

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Should I preserve the wood before painting the designs with acrylic paints or do I paint and then preserve??? Or do I even preserve? If so, what should I use that works well with paint? When a sign is completed (routed and painted), seems like some kind of clear exterior finish should be applied that lasts a long time, doesnít yellow, and has a flat or matte finish. What should I use? Thanks for your advice and helping me get started.

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Hey Bob,

The issue you are going to have with aged wood is after you carve it, the parts that you carve are not going to be aged anymore. Unless you sit it outside for a while after you carve it.
You can try aging the wood after you carve it that way it looks uniform then paint over the aged wood. The best way I have heard of aging wood is to put steel wool in vinegar but it takes a few days for it to dissolve.
I don't age my signs so I am no export more of a trial and error kind of guy. But as far as paint I use cheap craft paint (It is called Craft Smart) from Michael and always use a coupon. I also buy my finish from there It is called Krylon Acrylic Crystal clear I use matte and gloss depending on if the sign is outside or inside.
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I have yet to find a clear finish that holds up in the weather, other than oil. And the good part about oil is you can refresh it without having to strip off the old finish. and on rough weathered wood that stripping is impossible.

I am not an expert on finishing,tho,

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Welcome to the forum. How rough is your wood? I have some wood from a old wood fence that is very rough that I was trying the same thing. I found that the Dermel would work but the small bit would not make a large enough letter width so went with a plunge router to get better letter size. I tried spray sealer on it to just protect it some .
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?......"The issue you are going to have with aged wood is after you carve it, the parts that you carve are not going to be aged anymore.".........
Welcome to the forum. Sign making is more fun to me than golf. I finally found a hobby where I can make money.......

I don't age my wood after carving.....for two reasons.

#1). I'm to anxious to sell my boards.
#2). I don't know how and have never taken the time to learn about the process.

I use Helmsman Exterior Eurathane for signs that will be outdoors. I use the brush-on, not the aerosol. For indoor signs, I, too, use the Krylon Clear Acrylic spray on.

I am also a rookie at sign carving. But as I near retirement all I can do it think of how I'm gonna convince my wife to let me convert our den into my shop. After all, it was my garage before we had it converted!

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Welcome to the forum. Sign making is more fun to me than golf. I finally found a hobby where I can make money.......

I don't age my wood after carving.....for two reasons.

#1). I'm to anxious to sell my boards.
#2). I don't know how and have never taken the time to learn about the process.

I use Helmsman Exterior Eurathane for signs that will be outdoors. I use the brush-on, not the aerosol. For indoor signs, I, too, use the Krylon Clear Acrylic spray on.

I am also a rookie at sign carving. But as I near retirement all I can do it think of how I'm gonna convince my wife to let me convert our den into my shop. After all, it was my garage before we had it converted!

Yeah, good luck with that. Is your doghouse big enough for your shop...because I reckon you'll be spending some serious time in there after you propose that change from den to shop.
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I like to put a couple of coats of Minwax Helmsman Spar Eurathane Varnish.

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Using a couple of old Craftsman routers & a Bosch 1617EVSPK & a Dewalt DWP611PK Routers in SW Louisiana.
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