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This is the sign I was making in my time-lapse video). The detail of the Mark Twain image was carved with a Whiteside SC-50 Carving Liner bit, set at a depth of about 1/16", and the rest with a 60º V groove bit plus a 45º chamfer around the edges. Router was the Dewalt 611. The wood is a piece of cedar fence board sanded smooth on both sides before carving. Finished size is 6" x 20".

As RubenZ showed in his recent post, sign making is a lot of fun, easy to do freehand, and takes little time. That's the only real problem with making signs: the project goes too fast and you have to start looking around for something else to do ... like another sign.

I encourage you to grab a scrap of pine or cedar and try your hand at a simple sign. At the very least, it will help you gain confidence in your routing abilities and it might give you solutions to those Christmas gifts that are coming up.
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Oliver, your talent never ceases to amaze me! Well done and great encouragement to others.
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Very nice, great video too. Looking at a photo of the bit, would it cut a line that's about 1/16" wide if the depth is set at 1/16"? So then you have to move the bit over to cut a wider area as defined by the photo? You've got a lot steadier hand than I do - maybe 20 years ago, but not any more.

It looks as if you just have a photo-copy glued to the board, isn't there a problem with the bit tearing the edge of the paper as you rout and you losing the lines?
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Very nice, great video too. Looking at a photo of the bit, would it cut a line that's about 1/16" wide if the depth is set at 1/16"? So then you have to move the bit over to cut a wider area as defined by the photo? You've got a lot steadier hand than I do - maybe 20 years ago, but not any more.

It looks as if you just have a photo-copy glued to the board, isn't there a problem with the bit tearing the edge of the paper as you rout and you losing the lines?
Yes, Tom, sometimes you have make two passes for a wider line. However, if the depth is set for a moderately wide line I make thinner, narrower lines by lifting one edge of the base and making a shallower cut. The maximum depth you can cut with this bit, without breaking it, is 3/32" which sounds very shallow but is more than enough.

I use spray glue [3M 77] to attach my printed pattern and roll it down with a brayer. The lettering is no issue, nor are most of the lines in the image. Paper tearing becomes a bit of a problem once you start routing out the larger areas. That's when you rely on ... Ummm ... Creative Interpretation of the design. In short, make a guess and fake it. After all the cutting is done, I give the paper pattern a quick swipe with mineral spirits on a paper towel. The mineral spirits soak through the paper, dissolves the glue, and the pattern peels right off leaving little or no residue.
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It's hard to comprehend it's free hand . You should have been a surgeon Oliver. I'll bet you beat all the other kids at Operation lol
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Exceptional job Oliver.
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Absolutely phenominal artistry!!!

Oliver, you have done yourself proud.....as well as our craft!!!

And your words of encouragement were perfect!!
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Absolutely phenominal artistry!!!

Oliver, you have done yourself proud.....as well as our craft!!!

And your words of encouragement were perfect!!
Thanks for the kind words, Frank. I want everyone to know freehand sign routing ain't rocket science —unlike CNC which requires a computer, cabling, lots of space, a big learning curve, and control software with names like Mach 3 and Vectric.

Our freehand routing control has names like Frank, Oliver, and Barb ... ever so much more user friendly ... and work can be done just about anywhere with a minimum of tools and materials. Even novice router users like Ruben (RubenZ) are successfully making signs.

[Okay, full disclosure says I should state that I'm still envious of the 3D capabilities and fine detail of CNC machines. However, I'm having a good time freehanding and I know others will too. ]
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.....Okay, full disclosure says I should state that I'm still envious of the 3D capabilities and fine detail of CNC machines. However, I'm having a good time freehanding and I know others will too. ]
Oliver, I am a degreed machinist, employed 37 years with the same machine shop. We have a lot of CNC machines and turn out tremendously high quality, tight tolerance and asthetically pleasing to the eye valve parts and custom machined parts. Even so, we still have half of our shop filled with manual machines.....operated by career craftsmen.

As proud as I am of the products we manufacture, truth be known, I'm more proud of my humble 2 dimensional signs. The main reason is.......I made it with my hands and tools.....not with a computer guided machine.

Perfection has its place in all industries and artistries. But "handmade" implies to me there is a more personal aspect in bringing these items "to life." Our imperfections make each sign perfectly unique.

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