Freehand or Template - Router Forums
 23Likes
  • 3 Post By dalboy
  • 2 Post By Semipro
  • 3 Post By Cherryville Chuck
  • 1 Post By dalboy
  • 2 Post By Cherryville Chuck
  • 3 Post By hawkeye10
  • 6 Post By Gaffboat
  • 2 Post By Frankj3
  • 1 Post By dalboy
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
dalboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Country: United Kingdom
First Name: derek
Posts: 79
 
Default Freehand or Template

I would like to have a go at making signs using a router. Which would be the best option Freehand or using templates. Also which would give me the best choice of letter design.
Would using a v cutter be best for starting and would I need to take gradual cuts to prevent burning.
I have done a little in the way of hand carving some basic signs see below
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2012-11-11_10-02-56 (2).jpg
Views:	1421
Size:	887.2 KB
ID:	205313  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF1071.JPG
Views:	583
Size:	30.3 KB
ID:	205321  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF1172.jpg
Views:	511
Size:	1.10 MB
ID:	205329  

chessnut2, Hutzul and BobbyLee like this.
dalboy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 01:18 PM
Moderation Team
 
Semipro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Country: United States
First Name: John_*
Posts: 6,426
 
Default

Derek
the signs look good, whatever you're doing looks good to me!
dalboy and BobbyLee like this.
Semipro is online now  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 02:34 PM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 14,859
 
Default

Lots do it freehand and with that option you can use a printer for fonts and sizes and then glue the paper on the wood and go that way. Way more options free hand.
Gaffboat, dalboy and BobbyLee like this.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
dalboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Country: United Kingdom
First Name: derek
Posts: 79
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherryville Chuck View Post
Lots do it freehand and with that option you can use a printer for fonts and sizes and then glue the paper on the wood and go that way. Way more options free hand.
Thank you do you do it in more than one pass or cut to the full depth
BobbyLee likes this.
dalboy is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 05:37 PM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 14,859
 
Default

Unless some part is really deep I do it one pass. You are usually going pretty slowly and probably at most 1/2" deep. Kind of anchor your router hand down onto the piece and use the free hand to make small arcs for best control. Smaller routers are easier to handle. There are several bits that are the most commonly used. A 90* vee point for fine detail and sharp corners, a 60* with a flat bottom for flat backgrounds are probably the most common.
dalboy and BobbyLee like this.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 05:43 PM
Registered User
 
hawkeye10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Country: United States
First Name: Don
Posts: 2,603
 
Default

Derek I think you can do more to help us than we can do for you. Your signs look sooooo good.
dalboy, BobbyLee and Kelvin Healey like this.

Don in Murfreesboro,Tn.

Measure once cut twice and it's still to short.
hawkeye10 is offline  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 07:13 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Gaffboat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Oliver
Posts: 2,073
 
Default

I don't know why you want to use a router, Derek, your signs are beautiful.

I basically use four bits: an SC50 for very fine detail, a profile bit for detail and outset letters, a 60 v-groove for inset letters, and a 90 v-groove for cleaning out background areas. I use shallow (less than 1/8") depth for the fine detail bit. And usually less than 1/4" for all the others. Everything is cut in one pass.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sign Carving-Bits.png
Views:	1238
Size:	260.5 KB
ID:	205433  

JFPNCM, TenGees, Stick486 and 3 others like this.

Dragons slain. Damsels rescued. No reasonable request refused ... unless the dragon's really big.

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. ~ Leonardo da Vinci

You can't use up creativity. The more you use, the more you have. ~Oscar Wilde

http://profhenrys.blogspot.com
Gaffboat is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-21-2016, 10:13 PM
Registered User
 
Frankj3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Country: United States
First Name: Frank
Posts: 675
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaffboat View Post
I don't know why you want to use a router, Derek, your signs are beautiful.

I basically use four bits: an SC50 for very fine detail, a profile bit for detail and outset letters, a 60 v-groove for inset letters, and a 90 v-groove for cleaning out background areas. I use shallow (less than 1/8") depth for the fine detail bit. And usually less than 1/4" for all the others. Everything is cut in one pass.
Derek, to expand upon Oliver's post......he and I, as well as a lot of others on this forum, use these bits.

Some of us have bought our bits from Make a Wood Sign. That's Dave (the dad) and Eric (the son) Rhoten's web site. A lot of us consider them the gurus of freehand wood sign carving.

Dave and Eric have over 100 videos on their Youtube channel, oldave100. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN_...gJVLsSTqawYMFg

I highly recommend you drop by their web site and Youtube channel. And, ask Eric to join his list of friends on Facebook. He will gladly add you. They do a live training seminar once a month on Facebook.

Eric and Dave are really good people and are excited to share their knowledge with anyone. Personal service is a live and well with them.

By the way.....when are your next classes? I want to learn your techniques!! Awesome signs my friend!!
Gaffboat and BobbyLee like this.

Frank

I may not know what I'm doing, but I am having fun doing it wrong!!

Happy Day Veterans!!
Frankj3 is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-22-2016, 03:28 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
dalboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Country: United Kingdom
First Name: derek
Posts: 79
 
Default

Thank you all for the information and links I will be looking at the router bits they look very useful and not just for routing letters.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaffboat View Post
I don't know why you want to use a router, Derek, your signs are beautiful.
I like to try different techniques as I believe that opening different ways of doing something can be of benefit.
As the old saying goes "There is more than one way to skin a cat"
BobbyLee likes this.
dalboy is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome