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Please explain to me the forum moderation you have here? I make one post it shows right away, I make a thread it shows, I make a post I get a you must wait for a mod to approve your post....
This is extremely irritating and makes me want to never post because you never know if I am going to be moderated or not and you never know how long it will take a mod to approve my post.... here it is over 8 hours since I posted and still no post and others have posted to the thread I posted to saying the same thing... why did I even bother posting?
And dont take this as an attack on the site because it isnt, but this 10 post thing is ridiculous and just plain lazy on the side of the staff here. There are better user friendly ways to weed out spammers.
I am not a poster, never have been. I have been a member of some sites for many years and my post count is still in the single digits. I read, gather information and thats it. Occasionally I will post to a subject I am interested in but it is not normal for me to do so. Here on the other hand, I am a beginner wood worker who is in love with routing and have come to this site because it promised to be a plethora of information and a place I can communicate with others who are like me. So I have found that I want to interact and make posts of relevant topics but when I run into this moderation stuff that shows no rhyme or reason, it encourages me to find another forum to interact with.
So please tell me why it comes and goes? What triggers it or whatever....
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Serpentine,

I have made several hundred postings here and never had the system tell me that a post needed to be screened by a moderator.

What that suggests to me, is that you may have selected either a forum or a thread that has been marked 'closed'.

Some of the forums here are closed to new postings because they have 'sub-forums' in the hierarchy below them that are better suited for new postings than the more general group name.

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I would of made a reply by name but you did not bother to fill out your profile. The trigger is links; I just finished deleting the third spammer from this weekend. The 10 post rule is so we can limit the damage done by spammers; if you have a better suggestion please tell me. In my welcome message I mention the easy way to get past the 10 posts is to view the show and tell section and leave comments or questions on the projects you see there.

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I am certain that if you cannot work this out Mark will give you a free refund, but if you decide to stay please understand that this forum is designed to be user-friendly to all. This sort of forum needs to stay somewhat on-topic, but quite a bit (no pun intended) of deviation is seen daily as people "get to know each other" and learn often where or to whom to turn for advice on specific topics. Not everyone is an expert and certainly no one individual will have expert advice on every topic. A forum such as this benefits by the mere fact that there is such a diversity of interests. If you see friendly posts, it is the norm and, conversely; if you see someone being harsh or just downright offensive - you will quite likely see that they have a very small number of posts.
Now understand this: There is nothing wrong with a small number of posts! What does happen though is that "jerks" or "constant complainers" find themselves in a place where bad attitudes are not appreciated and therefore they do not gain respect as much as they may have been hoping for.
I hope this clears-up some things for you and maybe you will see where we are "coming from". Personally I haven't any recollection of the "must wait for moderation" notification and therefore cannot comment based on personal experience. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who run this forum - they are like hosts of a get-together and it is for this reason that they may need to take some time to consider the "ripple affect" of what may get sent. With the thousands of members, it would be unwise for them to take-on an "anything goes" attitude. I and many others hope that this makes your situation more understandable and that from here forward you have a truly helpful experience...

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I just caught another spammer since I made my reply. This site is kept very clean by a great deal of work... we do the best we can.

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Mike, Thanks for all of the work you and others are doing to keep this site up and running and to me, very fun to interact with. There is a wealth of information here and for the most part the respondents are very helpful and certainly provide a good variety of "points of view". I have always found this forum enjoyable and it is the peple such as you that make this possible! Even when I've made "questionable comments" I always felt as I had been treated fairly. PLEASE KEEP-UP THE GOOD WORK!

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Just axed another spammer; thanks to BJ for reporting him. Thanks guys.

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Going into a section of the site and spamming a thread with a bunch of "nice" or "cool" or very sharp" comments just to up my post count is to me spamming.
As I said, I am not attacking the site, I am asking a question and I am happy for those of you who have never experienced this situation as I have.
If posting a link in the manor the site rules say a link can be posted causes the software to flag a post then to me that is counter intuitive. The site rules specifically say you can post links for purposes of sharing and such (as long as you are not trying to sell of which I am not).
As for putting myself in the shoes of the staff here, been there done that. Staffed several sites working my way from a mod all the way to admin and web master. I got away from it all because it is just too time consuming. So lets just say I understand the in's and out's of a site both infront of the screen and behind.
As for the 10 post thing, what has worked for me on different sites in the past is global moderation of all new members. not for sign up, but for posting. automatically the first 5-10 posts are moderated. It is a little more work for the staff but stops all spamming in its tracks. On the admin side, all members who are banned/deleted from the site due to spamming have their IP added to the ban list so they cannot sign back up with that IP. after about a 6 month period, the IP list is large and the amount of spammers signing up gets fewer and fewer every day. You still have them. As for the members signing up, they are moderated until they make 3-10 posts that are not spam, and then either the mods remove then from moderation or the site does it automatically.
I guess the choice of "user friendly" to describe this is not on par. It is not exactly friendly to be automatically modded when you sign up to a new site, but atleast you know every post will be modded, not a 50/50 crap shoot.
As for my profile being filled out, I did fill it out as much as I am comfortable filling it out for public viewing. My name is Serpentine for all intents and purposes, Serp for short.
Anyways.... after this post I only have three more to go to hit the 10 spot.... lets see if I can do it before the years up. Might post a few pix of my table or something.... if I am allowed.
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