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I started a thread about planning recently and got a lot of good feedback from members that have the skill to sketch their plans in advance, sounds like a reasonbalbe approach to the issue to me. Since I started the thread I have been wonder if the following approach would work. Actuslly it would work a person could do what I'm going to try to desribe, the rub is wheather or not it can be done.

I am talking about visualizing each workpiece of a project in it's entireity including all of it's dimentions and writing the information down. After doing this with each part and checking all of the dimentions to see if they are correct in regard to each other in the project. Then rather than sketching the project out, just cut each workpiece to the dimentions on the list and if done correctly, the parts should all fit together with no problem, maybe thisis what others do all of time, I want to try it on my next project, wish I had done it on my current project.

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I started a thread about planning recently and got a lot of good feedback from members that have the skill to sketch their plans in advance, sounds like a reasonbalbe approach to the issue to me. Since I started the thread I have been wonder if the following approach would work. Actuslly it would work a person could do what I'm going to try to desribe, the rub is wheather or not it can be done.

I am talking about visualizing each workpiece of a project in it's entireity including all of it's dimentions and writing the information down. After doing this with each part and checking all of the dimentions to see if they are correct in regard to each other in the project. Then rather than sketching the project out, just cut each workpiece to the dimentions on the list and if done correctly, the parts should all fit together with no problem, maybe thisis what others do all of time, I want to try it on my next project, wish I had done it on my current project.

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that's what I do for everything but the simplest projects. For more complex stuff, like my router lift, I'll draw it, then I use google sketch up.
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that's what I do for everything but the simplest projects. For more complex stuff, like my router lift, I'll draw it, then I use google sketch up.
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Sounds like I need to find out about this "Sketch Up" program tha you refer to. Another member of the forum has referred to it a couple of times in our PM and personal phone calls.

Another thought. you know, in most activites that men do for recreation, such as playing golf, hunting, fishing etc., we do with each other, part of the fun is being able to visit about what we are doing an it together, but woodworking in itself is more of a lonely activity. This forum takes a lot of that loneliness out of things and as for myself, makes my interest in woodworking much richer. I am prettys sure that most of us regulars will concurr with my thoughts on this matter. Have a good day all of you that read this post.

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Hi Jerry,

I do visualize a project in my mind first but I also at least do a rough sketch of the project before I start cutting parts. If the project is elaborate then I will make better drawings in Sketch Up or another CAD program. There is a learning curve to use Sketch Up or any CAD program but there are free tutorials available online as well as dvd's you can purchase.

Doing a quick sketch before I start cutting parts has saved me several times because I see things that might be a problem that I would only see 3/4th of the way through a project. I can rethink things before I start cutting expensive wood.

Sometimes I also make a mock-up of some parts out of MDF or cheaper wood that need redesign before cutting the good piece.

The most important thing, like you say, is to make a cutting list and check the dimensions before you start the project.

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[QUOTE=MEBCWD;333737]Hi Jerry,

I do visualize a project in my mind first but I also at least do a rough sketch of the project before I start cutting parts. If the project is elaborate then I will make better drawings in Sketch Up or another CAD program. There is a learning curve to use Sketch Up or any CAD program but there are free tutorials available online as well as dvd's you can purchase.

Doing a quick sketch before I start cutting parts has saved me several times because I see things that might be a problem that I would only see 3/4th of the way through a project. I can rethink things before I start cutting expensive wood.

Sometimes I also make a mock-up of some parts out of MDF or cheaper wood that need redesign before cutting the good piece.

The most important thing, like you say, is to make a cutting list and check the dimensions before you start the project.[/QUOTEi]

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I'm not sophisticated to know about CAD programs. Also, I think from talking to people othe than members of this forum that not all folks have the visualization skills that others have. With out these skills, working without detailed sketchs might be a little out of the question. I'm pretty fortunate that my abilllity to visualize are pretty good and so far me, the need for sketches isn't needed, I reserve the right to change my mind on this point. But, as I said, the cut list looks like, for me anyway, is the key to my success. My big concern is that I don't have to measure once the project is started, or at lease this my hope since so far this cut list only exists in my thinking. I'll post the results for how it works once I give it a try.

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I started a thread about planning recently and got a lot of good feedback from members that have the skill to sketch their plans in advance, sounds like a reasonbalbe approach to the issue to me. Since I started the thread I have been wonder if the following approach would work. Actuslly it would work a person could do what I'm going to try to desribe, the rub is wheather or not it can be done.

I am talking about visualizing each workpiece of a project in it's entireity including all of it's dimentions and writing the information down. After doing this with each part and checking all of the dimentions to see if they are correct in regard to each other in the project. Then rather than sketching the project out, just cut each workpiece to the dimentions on the list and if done correctly, the parts should all fit together with no problem, maybe thisis what others do all of time, I want to try it on my next project, wish I had done it on my current project.

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Tell you what. You do that, write down all the dimensions, then don't sketch anything out, just cut the pieces out, and fit them together. Without doing any measuring or recutting. And take pictures and post them of the whole process. If you can actually do that, without cheating, more power to you. But I don't see it happening.

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