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For the sleep apnea Tom you most likely need a CPAP machine. I wasn't feeling rested either until I had to start using one (or lose my drivers license). Now I'm addicted to it. I feel much better now on waking than before.

I have pretty severe arthritis. Shoulder rotator cups are worn out , especially the left one, right knee that was supposed to get replaced is extremely sore and hard to walk on, back is sore, and hands a little stiff but still functional, just not as much strength in them as before. I was managing reasonably well with it by taking arthrotec, an nsaid pain reliever. But my doc says I'm getting dangerously close to having to go on dialysis from using them so I've quit. Hopefully some of these home remedy compounds can help. My wife found some stuff with essential oils that is made very near here that has helped my shoulder but the relief is is only good for a few hours.
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I couldnít stand the CPAP so I got a dental appliance that corrects my sleep apnea.
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I couldnít stand the CPAP so I got a dental appliance that corrects my sleep apnea.
I have not heard of that. I have tried Cpap twice and gave it up, do you have a link I could research that method?
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If you're lucky, a dental appliance will work for sleep apnea. If it doesn't, there are two other possibilities.

1. For moderate sleep apnea, believe it or not, learning to play the didgeridoo can help. My sleep doctor swears by it; apparently the circular breathing required strengthens and tones certain muscles whose weakness contributes to apnea.

2. For serious sleep apnea, a dental appliance is unlikely to be sufficient. In that case, working with your sleep doctor to find the kind of mask that gets you most of the way is essential, and then willpower. It can be quite hard, but sleep apnea can kill you--actually, if you get old enough it *will* kill you by damaging your heart--so don't give up.

One thing I'm sure of, though, is that dealing with sleep apnea is not a DIY undertaking. If you're not satisfied with your sleep doctor, find another one. It's his or her job to find a solution you can live with.

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CPAP is worth it and if necessary the suffering, the latter being more of a discomfort than reality. the downside is far and away worse.

As davetrow pointed out, find a Doc you can work with. It is worth it Herb!

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My problem with CPap was that it closed off my breathing. Couldn't get the pressure down low enough to make it work. I sleep with O2, and lately I've lost almost 30 lbs and it doesn't seem as bad anymore. The O2 has helped, but losing the weight seems to have helped more. I am thinking of losing another 10 lbs or so, which brings me down close to high school weight. I should probably have a retest, but I find myself sleeping pretty soundly, except for the bathroom stops. I don't wake up feeling exhausted anymore.
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For the sleep apnea Tom you most likely need a CPAP machine. I wasn't feeling rested either until I had to start using one (or lose my drivers license). Now I'm addicted to it. I feel much better now on waking than before.
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@Cherryville Chuck , Thanks. I used a CPAP for about a decade and have used a BiPPAP for 3 1/2 years. I have a phone app that shows info from the BiPAP. It is amazing how many apnea and hypoapmea events I have on bad night.also have insomnia (exhibit A: time of this posting.

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I agree with the CPAP for sleep apnea, but will warn that it is an uncomfortable machine.

In my case, arthritis is quite bad but I would have to tell the whole story on how I alleviate some of the pain. But to boil it down, and I do not recommend the doses I take to anyone unless you have cancer. Is my heavy use of pain meds. However, I fell from a 5 story building and one of the things broken (well shattered) was both wrists. I only have about 5 percent movement in left wrist, and 0 percent in right one. This was in 2001, and the arthritis has only gotten worse. I barely function, at any normal rate but the pain is fairly well subsided when I take what is prescribed. But I do dislike being on them, and take as minimal as possible. I purposefully cut myself down to a level that may not kill me (if that was ever going to kill me) As I use to take 4 - 80 Oxys a day, and as much Percocet as needed (usually have a bottle of 160 laying around) I took that amount for nearly 10 years. But now am on 2 - 40s a day, and try to use no more than 1 or 2 percs a day (if I even use them).

Please know, both shattered wrists is about the least of my issues. And the only reason I was/am on such a high dose is due to how much morphine the hospital had to use on me.

Not sure why I even wrote any of this down, other to let myself know I am doing better now.
But sadly the arthritis is something I (and most people) will have to live with.

I do use some custom made braces during sleep, and sometimes during BAD days, and these do help A LOT. Perhaps to some psychological effect, but surely to some real pain lessening effect (could be used for anyone)

The braces could be made by anyone, using a hard type plastic that forms well using just boiling water to shape around wrists, then harden as cooled.
Now these I do recommend trying to some extent, and see if they help you (or anyone for that matter)
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I agree with the CPAP for sleep apnea, but will warn that it is an uncomfortable machine.

In my case, arthritis is quite bad but I would have to tell the whole story on how I alleviate some of the pain. But to boil it down, and I do not recommend the doses I take to anyone unless you have cancer. Is my heavy use of pain meds. However, I fell from a 5 story building and one of the things broken (well shattered) was both wrists. I only have about 5 percent movement in left wrist, and 0 percent in right one. This was in 2001, and the arthritis has only gotten worse. I barely function, at any normal rate but the pain is fairly well subsided when I take what is prescribed. But I do dislike being on them, and take as minimal as possible. I purposefully cut myself down to a level that may not kill me (if that was ever going to kill me) As I use to take 4 - 80 Oxys a day, and as much Percocet as needed (usually have a bottle of 160 laying around) I took that amount for nearly 10 years. But now am on 2 - 40s a day, and try to use no more than 1 or 2 percs a day (if I even use them).

Please know, both shattered wrists is about the least of my issues. And the only reason I was/am on such a high dose is due to how much morphine the hospital had to use on me.

Not sure why I even wrote any of this down, other to let myself know I am doing better now.
But sadly the arthritis is something I (and most people) will have to live with.

I do use some custom made braces during sleep, and sometimes during BAD days, and these do help A LOT. Perhaps to some psychological effect, but surely to some real pain lessening effect (could be used for anyone)

The braces could be made by anyone, using a hard type plastic that forms well using just boiling water to shape around wrists, then harden as cooled.
Now these I do recommend trying to some extent, and see if they help you (or anyone for that matter)


After reading your courage, I will never complain again about my Arthritis discomfort. Hang in there Brian, my hat is off to you.
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Not sure I would call it courage, more like persistence of a high willed person, if there is such.
I am not trying to detract from others, real pain, and I do not consider myself as any type of disable (other than the state has deemed it so.)

The wrists support I stated, if done right and used at bedtime should help most people.
Likely you will find that it has helped enough that you may start to use them (or wrists braces in general) during the day on some occasions.

Without going into to much detail, in my own case (derailing from OP), yeah I was on morphine for 32 days straight. Which does not sound like a lot. But, consider with 2 unusable hands, I was not able to use the machine that you can use for timed self dosage. So, in my case, any time I made any kind of noise the nurse was allowed to come in and give me another shot (regardless of the time allotted) But it was mainly so I did not move at all for the first 2 weeks, for the swelling to lessen before the multiple surgeries. When they finally tried to ween me off of it, they found I moved to much on Demerol, so 32 days on, with 2 days on Demerol, then back on morphine for another 5 ~ or so days at much lower doses. And was given some on some sort of basis for the next year, in ICU. and second year in hospital was finally off of it. Only to be put on pill form (hence the Oxy at such high doses).

Anyhow, again try a hard style brace at night time, I found it was one of the better helping aids, with physical therapy to be about the least helpful (granted for my condition).
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