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Chuck, If 8 or 9 sheets of ply is all you need to cut why don't you just ask your lumber yard what they'd charge to cut them for you? I ran a lumber yard for years and we charged for doing just about everything including cutting plywood. Try approaching your yard and see what they'd charge to cut the ply for you, you might be surprised. There's nothing particulary thrilling about cutting plywood to size anyway. Save your money and woodworking skills for the other stuff that's more interesting and enjoyable.
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On the other side of this coin (no disrespect intended Chuck!!) I've had a high end yard Screw up cuts. I purchased a 18"' X 12/4 X 12' piece of oak. asked that it be cut into 3 four foot sections. What I got was 4 three foot sectioins. The reply was "thats what YOU said you wanted"..I probably shouldn't "judge" all yards by this measure.. but it happens..

.and I have yet to have a big box store cut sheet goods to exact specs. For them, close is
pretty much good enough. I've had this happen often enough for work, that I'd never even consider a personal purchase and have them cut it for me.

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Chuck,While I like the clamps at Rockler these are much better built and if you,ll check out my write up you,ll see a lot more folks here a getting these rather than the Rocklers and their always available. Check out the video at the bottom of the page and I think you,ll have to admit its a much better system as it actually bolts to the track, Take care and hope your happy with whatever your choice maybe,.., Straight Edge Clamps - Peachtree Woodworking Supply
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Check this monster out.
You just press the button and it does the cutting by itself. No need for a long reaching arm.
YouTube - Mafell PSS3100e Panel Saw

There is a slight issue or two with this saw. Is this sold in the states? Doubtful as of yet and possibly quite expensive. Also, if a person is in a wheel chair, I think someone, such as an engineer has overlooked the fact that, this will interfere with setting this up. Especially if you are intending to rip in half. Standing and reaching to get to the 2' mark is one thing, try it sitting down. I'm not saying this is a bad saw or idea, just the purpose for which the possibility of use, ie., someone in a wheelchair, is NOT good.

Even the "all-in-one-clamps" and as the one tommyt suggested, IMHO, aren't really the best solution to the OP. These are quite easily damaged and very difficult at best to "fix" that damage. I have a Bora clamp, all aluminum, too fragile IMHO, for it's design... is the same as any other straight edge clamp, flimsy.

Having a yard cut the pieces for you IS the best option but, as Bill has stated, be very watchful and careful of how they cut it for you. You tell them one thing, they'll do quite the opposite of what you asked.

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I,m gonna disagree with you here on the clamps here,s why. Shown in the picture below is my Delta 43-120 Shaper with the clamp attached to it. I lifted that shaper off the ground on 1 edge with that clamp and pressure from it alone. Its far from flimsy, matter of fact it is extremely ridgid IMO, but the proof is there in living color and I would have no reason to lie about it here. Show me another clamp that can do that. Maybe the Bora,s and Rockler a re a thinner cheaper clamps but these peachtree pro clamps by far are a superior product to at least the Rockler and I have seen it,.., Router Forums
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I,m gonna disagree with you here on the clamps here,s why. Shown in the picture below is my Delta 43-120 Shaper with the clamp attached to it. I lifted that shaper off the ground on 1 edge with that clamp and pressure from it alone. Its far from flimsy, matter of fact it is extremely ridgid IMO, but the proof is there in living color and I would have no reason to lie about it here. Show me another clamp that can do that. Maybe the Bora,s and Rockler a re a thinner cheaper clamps but these peachtree pro clamps by far are a superior product to at least the Rockler and I have seen it,.., Router Forums

Perhaps, it still leaves a "setup" issue for someone in a wheelchair.

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On the other side of this coin (no disrespect intended Chuck!!) I've had a high end yard Screw up cuts. I purchased a 18"' X 12/4 X 12' piece of oak. asked that it be cut into 3 four foot sections. What I got was 4 three foot sectioins. The reply was "thats what YOU said you wanted"..I probably shouldn't "judge" all yards by this measure.. but it happens..

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pretty much good enough. I've had this happen often enough for work, that I'd never even consider a personal purchase and have them cut it for me.

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Bill, Sounds like that your cutting request was a verbal one. I can't speak for other yards around the country but we always wrote work orders for any kind of mill work, cuts, doors, korbels, etc, etc. All cuts, regardless if it were lumber or plywood dimensions were shown on the work order and intialed by the customer. 90% of the time if there was a problem, it was generally the customer's measuring error. We generally recut for them anyway at no charge. No, I don't think you can judge all yards by your experience, nor would I ever even consider buying cabinet or furniture grade lumber from a Big Box store.
I would not suggest to Chuck or anyone else to count on a lumber yard to do extremely precise cuts. I think for anyone to expect precision cuts from a lumber yard is asking for trouble. Just too many variables in rules and measures, in fact story sticks are better than measurements anyway. I was suggesting that a yard simply be used to get the plywood cut to sizes that could be handle by a person in a chair. Once they are in managable sizes he or she can then do the precise cutting on a table saw with guard and splitter in place and push through the saw using an appropriate push stick to an outfeed table. All within reach of a person in a chair.
My concern for Chuch or anyone else in a chair is the possible danger of over reaching and placing themselves in harms way.
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you guys

I really appreciate all these comments, ideas and web sites to visit.

I got the design of the benches and router table done.

I also got out to my shop yesterday to check things out and I have a lot of tear down of existing benches and tables and rebuilding to do. That I definitely can't do myself.

I like the idea of having the lumber yard ripping the 4 x 8 sheets. My thoughts right now are to bring a guy in to help with the tear outs and have him rip the sheets.

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Chuck,

How ablout an update - how are things going? Don't know if you decided for/against the track saw but Toolsplus has the dewalt cordess unit for $245.00.

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How ablout an update - how are things going? Don't know if you decided for/against the track saw but Toolsplus has the dewalt cordess unit for $245.00.

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Thanks for asking,

Didn't get much done at all this summer. Heat is my worst enemy and this summer has been the hottest. But, fall is coming and hopefully cooler temps. I did get the cabinets designed and bill of materials done.

I see that the cordless DeWalt track saw is on sale but adding the cost of the track itself back in brings the price back up plus I got batteries to replace on all my cordless drills now and those things aren't cheap. I did buy a new corded Makita 3/8 keyless drill.

I decided to make a cutting board I saw on YouTube and get a friend to rip the 4 x 8 sheets. I did look at lowering my 10" Craftman Tablesaw for use with a wheelchair but decided against it. So I am going to sell it instead.

Hopefully I can actually get something built this fall.

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I am with you can't wait on the cooler weather - thanks for the update.

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