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I offered to give you my opinion on a used purchase. Now I will go one step further, call me at
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If you are serious about a used table saw, I can go with you and check it out. My surgery is on Wednesday so it must be before then or in a couple of weeks. Don't be in a rush ! if you have the cash and wait you will find a deal !
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Hello Dan. Thank you for offering to help. You have a lot on your plate at the moment and I would definitely not feel comfortable imposing on you. Let's talk after your surgery. I wish you good luck with that and a speedy recovery. Peter
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Confirm any TS you are looking at will tilt the blade to 45°. A used machine not well maintained may have dust built-up that prevents it from doing so.
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My first table saw was a delta contractors saw with a biesemeyer fence ,a great setup.
I learned my lesson,as the place I used to stay bought a new delta table saw that had the factory fence , and it was absolutely garbage . If you don’t have sturdy and accurate fence system , there’s no point in bothering imo.
But now the price goes up . All I can suggest is trying to find one used and not doing this twice
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@CharleyL . Very interesting thank you. Is anyone familiar with the King brand?
Peter, for some reason I couldn't see the pic if you posted them but I have two questions. Approximately where are you in Canada? I assume you're in Quebec if Danman is close enough to help you. If you're in the Toronto region there must be everybody and his brother selling tools, including table saws. From used to small and large outlets. That price shown for a Bosch 4100 is from HD. Not a good price. loads of smaller outlets with better prices. You'll never know unless you take the time to shop around. If all you need is a one time use to cut some plywood, why not find a small cabinet shop to slice it up and forego the trouble and time if it's that urgent. It'll probably be cheaper in the long run, all things considered.
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If anyone is interested, these are the corner traps that I plan on building. Basically, the table saw would be used to rip the plywood that can be seen in Steps 2 and 5. Then I would be done with the saw.
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IMHO do not buy a piece of S**t. Table saws come in 4 classes:

1. Benchtop Saws. These are usually direct drive and made of aluminum and/or plastic. OK if you are going to use once or twice a year.

2. Contractor Saws. These usually have a motor hanging off the back of the saw and are belt driven. These are work horses and can be made to work very well. Very few of them are great out of the box. Usually the fence needs to be replaced with a T-Square type, the miter gauge needs to be replaced and the saw needs to have a thin kerf blade because of the horse power limitations of the drive motor.

3. Cabinet Saws. The Powermatic 66, Delta Uni-Saw and Grizzly are in this category. They are usually at least 3 HP or more and are the best in breed.

4. Hybrid. This is a cross between the contractor and cabinet saw. These can be good saws but why buy a compromise when you should just get a contractor or a cabinet saw. The inbetweeners like the hybrid are always a compromise between quality and price.

All considered you need to figure out what the saw will be used for. If you are going to make a few cuts then go to Harbor Freight and get a Chicago Electric. If you think you will take up woodworking as a hobby then get a contractor class saw. If you think you are serious about woodworking as a hobby or as a side business then get the Cabinet Saw.

What ever saw you get, get the best saw in its class. You will be sorry if you buy by price alone. Check out reviews and get the best tool that you can afford. If you budget is $100-150 then you will get a POS. If you can go a little bit more you will find something good on craigslist or searching the internet. There are some industrial used tool dealers that you can get good prices on for better quality saws.

Quit worrying about price and worry more about quality. You always get what you pay for. If you get a bad tool you will always be sorry you bought it. Buy a quality tool and you will never be sorry in the long run if you want to sell it you can usually get back just about what you bought it for on the used market.

I used a Sears Craftsman 80s vintage contractor saw for years. I now have a Powermatic 66. The SawStop is probably the safest saw you can get right now.
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IMHO do not buy a piece of S**t. Table saws come in 4 classes:

1. Benchtop Saws. These are usually direct drive and made of aluminum and/or plastic. OK if you are going to use once or twice a year.

2. Contractor Saws. These usually have a motor hanging off the back of the saw and are belt driven. These are work horses and can be made to work very well. Very few of them are great out of the box. Usually the fence needs to be replaced with a T-Square type, the miter gauge needs to be replaced and the saw needs to have a thin kerf blade because of the horse power limitations of the drive motor.

3. Cabinet Saws. The Powermatic 66, Delta Uni-Saw and Grizzly are in this category. They are usually at least 3 HP or more and are the best in breed.

4. Hybrid. This is a cross between the contractor and cabinet saw. These can be good saws but why buy a compromise when you should just get a contractor or a cabinet saw. The inbetweeners like the hybrid are always a compromise between quality and price.

All considered you need to figure out what the saw will be used for. If you are going to make a few cuts then go to Harbor Freight and get a Chicago Electric. If you think you will take up woodworking as a hobby then get a contractor class saw. If you think you are serious about woodworking as a hobby or as a side business then get the Cabinet Saw.

What ever saw you get, get the best saw in its class. You will be sorry if you buy by price alone. Check out reviews and get the best tool that you can afford. If you budget is $100-150 then you will get a POS. If you can go a little bit more you will find something good on craigslist or searching the internet. There are some industrial used tool dealers that you can get good prices on for better quality saws.

Quit worrying about price and worry more about quality. You always get what you pay for. If you get a bad tool you will always be sorry you bought it. Buy a quality tool and you will never be sorry in the long run if you want to sell it you can usually get back just about what you bought it for on the used market.

I used a Sears Craftsman 80s vintage contractor saw for years. I now have a Powermatic 66. The SawStop is probably the safest saw you can get right now.
1... you clearly haven't direct experience w/ the Bosch 4100

2... no need for a T fence if you have a better saw and not a impoeted knock off...

3... and the Unisaw.. even the 40's vintage...

4.. no... they're perfect for many hobbyist...

the budget... . not if you know saws and and there are saws to be had for less because an owner is sick of there all over the want of a quality tune up...
SawStop... and the most expensive in operating cost - tangible and intangible costs...
have you taken the time to read the SawStop threads here???
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Peter, for some reason I couldn't see the pic if you posted them but I have two questions. Approximately where are you in Canada? I assume you're in Quebec if Danman is close enough to help you. If you're in the Toronto region there must be everybody and his brother selling tools, including table saws. From used to small and large outlets. That price shown for a Bosch 4100 is from HD. Not a good price. loads of smaller outlets with better prices. You'll never know unless you take the time to shop around. If all you need is a one time use to cut some plywood, why not find a small cabinet shop to slice it up and forego the trouble and time if it's that urgent. It'll probably be cheaper in the long run, all things considered.
Thank you for chiming in @thomas1389 Yes, I am located in Quebec. By the way Dan has been extremely helpful. Thanks for the recommendation anyway. Wise choice.
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Confirm any TS you are looking at will tilt the blade to 45°. A used machine not well maintained may have dust built-up that prevents it from doing so.
Will keep that in mind. Thank you.

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