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I have been doing small jobs with wood and have started to acquire some tools and a lot of interest in doing more wood working. I now have a porter cable circular saw, bosch 4100 table saw, bosch jig saw and bosch palm sander. We recently bought a house with a 12 x 14 shop so space is kind of limited as to having a cabinet style table saw and dedicated space for different pieces of equipment. Where should I go from here? Router? Miter saw?

I think router would be my guess, seeing as i have made it this far with out a miter saw (i've been using my speed square clamped as a guide for circular saw on long boards and table saw for smaller stuff). I would like to make a sled for my table saw along with some jigs to start doing different joints and get away from the torx deck screws for holding things together! I would also like to make a base for my table saw and get away from the rolling fold up that it sits on now. I would then like to make an outfeed table and my own router table with all being the same height to give me multiple uses from each.

So, which do you recommend, router or miter saw? or is there some stuff I need to do before getting any?

Also, I would like to get my table saw set up a little better such as a sled for such a small table, increasing the accuracy of the pusher thing with the degrees on it (what is that thing called again?)

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Welcome to the forum.

Predictably, I will recommend a router.

And, yes IMO, a small sled is better than a miter gauge.... (unless you bite the bullet on a really good miter gauge - does your table saw have a proper 3/4" slot?)

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Start by reading the sticky threads at the top of each section of the forums. They are loaded with good information which will help you make your decision.

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Predictably, I will recommend a router.

And, yes IMO, a small sled is better than a miter gauge.... (unless you bite the bullet on a really good miter gauge - does your table saw have a proper 3/4" slot?)
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Yes, it has 3/4" slots.
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Welcome to the forum KJ. I wouldn't do without my crosscut sled. I like the out feed table on my table saw too but I have the room for it. You could get by with out feed rollers which can be folded up and stowed out of the way when you don't need them. You could also use a router table for an out feed table too. You could then use the fence on the router table as an extension fence with your TS fence. You would just have to set your TS fence and then use a long straight edge to run your router fence up to it.

Since you have been doing okay without the miter saw, I would say router would be next. With a few edge profiling bits you can really dress your projects up. As you say, the TS can make good cuts with the right jigs and the speed square is good for the long stuff but if you don't have a fine tooth blade for the circular saw I would get one.

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welcome K J this forum is a good place to get the advice you require.regards carl

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I would say the miter saw and and a 12" one if you can afford it. You will find that the first tool you go to will be the table saw the second tool I go to is the miter saw. A router is a great tool but the wood needs to be cut to size before you take it to the router. Plus there will be far more things that need to be cut accurately to size then will need to be routed in any way shape or form. Days, weeks or months may go by without you ever turning the router on.
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Start by reading the sticky threads at the top of each section of the forums. They are loaded with good information which will help you make your decision.

Thanks Mike, I have read all of the stickies (noticing you wrote most of them) but still wanted to make sure I am going in the right direction.

So i am looking at the Bosch 1617evspk. I have had good luck with Bosch products so I will stick with em.

I spent 8 years as a machinist running vertical and horizontal mills, lathes, precision grinders and some CNC equipment and while doing so, put myself through school getting an industrial electricity associates degree and have been a mechanical/electrical technician for Mars food for the last 4 years. I have a pretty technical background and good grounds for building/machining. So now on to building a zero clearance insert and a sled for my table saw. Would the sled plans for these cabinet saws also work for my smaller portable bosch? And out of all the different plans is there one that just stands above all others for you? I know it has 3/4" slots. And also, a good table saw and circular saw blade that Lowes carries?
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I would say the miter saw and and a 12" one if you can afford it. You will find that the first tool you go to will be the table saw the second tool I go to is the miter saw. A router is a great tool but the wood needs to be cut to size before you take it to the router. Plus there will be far more things that need to be cut accurately to size then will need to be routed in any way shape or form. Days, weeks or months may go by without you ever turning the router on.
But couldn't I clean up my circular saw cuts, create joints, and trim angles to correct degrees with the router? Please explain your reasoning a little more. I need a really good reason not to spend 200 on a router vs the 400 to 800 for a 12" dual bevel, sliding miter saw!
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KJ, if all you are planning on doing is installing trim then a miter saw is your priority. If you want to do woodworking a router is the way to go and the 1617EVSPK is a great place to start. Woodsmith just emailed out a very nice plan for building a table saw sled and it should be available for download on their site.

You do not need a sled for a router table, it is easy enough to guide off your fence.

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