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Default Any Must have accessories for the Bosch 1617EVSPK?

After a talk with my wife, we've agreed I can put together a basic router setup in my shop. I'm just starting out and here's what I have already, or have on order:
  • Bosch 1617EVSPK Router kit
  • Bosch deluxe router guide
  • Grizzly T10432 Router Table & Stand (It's Wonderful! Thank you, Mike!!)
  • MLCS 15-piece router bit set
  • Grizzly 6-piece Round Over Bit set (On sale)
  • Several beginner's routing books (Hylton; Spielman)
  • Shop-Vac QuietPlus 16Gal 5.5 HP vacuum, 2" ID hoses

Is that a decent starter set? I know I need to set up a dust collection system. Is there anything else I'm going to need like MUST HAVE accessories? Since I'm new to routing, I'm not sure what I need to get started. I don't think I need to worry about templates/jigs yet, or should I? My only concern is I will get started and run into a problem, realizing I need a TechWiz 16-inch Donglegangle which will take several weeks to import from Kazistan.

Beginning projects: I'm going to be building garage shelving, a router table cabinet with drawers for the Grizzly table, grooving out red oak 1x2s for storm windows, a small stairs for my aging cat to get up into the bed, and who knows what else.

Thanks for any suggestions! And thanks to everyone for the excellent buying advice and the most magnificent wisdom from this forum.
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Love my Bosch 1617s. You might want to get a couple of small items you'll likely use later, including the Bosch RA1126 Quick Change Template Guide Adapter, Bosch RA1100 Threaded Router Template Guide Adapter, both of which are needed to use template guide bushings made for the Porter Cable. Can't recall the brand but I think it was Mike who suggested buying a bushing kit that all had slightly less than a quarter inch long tips so you can make templates out of quarter inch what we used to call Masonite instead of half inch stock. The Bosch bushings are made of steel, the PC type are generally brass, which is less likely to stain or mar surfaces. Yes, you need an adapter for the adapter--but it all works perfectly.

The edge guide comes with a dust extraction port. Bosch dust ports are all 35 mm so you will need to find an adapter from your vac hose to the correct size. I purchased a separate Bosch hose but you might be able to use either the Bosch VAC004 2-1/2 Inch Hose to 35mm Dust Hose Port Adapter or the Shop-vac 906-87-19 Universal Tool Adapter. All of these are available on Amazon.

Do you have a dust extraction port on the back of your router table fence? That helps some, but you'll also want to at least restrict dust falling beneath the table. For that you will need something to contain the dust (box with dust port in back for example).

I'm a throat cancer survivor, so I take dust collection very seriously and recommend others do as well. If you find yourself coughing after using tools, particularly if you have been cutting MDF, you'll quickly understand the need for dust collection and protection. For MDF and anything more than cutting a board or two, I wear a ventilated mask that uses a blower to suck fresh air through a filter. I got it from Rockler and really like it. Keep rechargeable AA batteries on hand for it. Its Rockler item #20029 Power Air Respirator, get an extra cartridge and extra filters to keep on hand. One bonus of this mask is that clean, fresh air escapes through the top of the mask, keeping glasses from fogging up. Woodriver has it for about the same price as well. Couldn't find it on Amazon.

I keep a box of surgical style dust masks if I'm doing one our two quick cuts because dust leaks from all tools. Keep the mask on after cutting because the worst and finest dust stays airborne for some time. About $6 at Harbor Freight or Amazon.

On bits: I've purchased one round over kit, but otherwise, I prefer to buy one bit at a time as I need them. I would also stick to half inch shank bits wherever possible. You might find a packet of half inch diameter grommets to drop into the collet so your bits don't bottom out, which can cause problems. For the most part, my preference is carbide tipped bits, although they are more fragile than steel, they have an extremely sharp edge.

I think you're going to love your setup. The accessories I mentioned are around ten bucks for the most part, except the power mask, which is worth every cent of the $80 on Rockler.

Have fun, be safe. Don't ever mess with bits with the router plugged in, at least don't if you like your fingers.

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Robert, read through this thread: http://www.routerforums.com/general-...tml#post279757

Adding a dollar store LED light like the one shown in the first photo makes a surprising difference. A short piece of foam mounting tape is ideal for attaching it to the curved plunge base. (Regular double sided tape didn't hold)

Watch for the Wood River brass guide bushing set at Woodcraft to go on sale. I think this is the best set for a reasonable price.

I highly recommend that you shell out the money for both the Shop Vac collection bags and small paper filter covers. The collection bags mean quick and easy disposal of the dust; the small paper filter bags keep the fines from going through the vacuum motor and being blown around your shop. You can add one of the separators down the road, inline between your router and the vac. (They all work)

The Bosch VAC024 hose adapter or the VAC005 hose both work great with the plunge routers and most Bosch tools.
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Not a must have, but quite usefull to make circles, arcs or curved sections for templets.
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Wow! Great suggestions! I've printed out your posts and highlighting the items for consideration.

Tom & Mike, I do need to take dust collection seriously, so I'll read up some more on this. I like the idea of the separator down the line, maybe using the separator components from the Rockler site. For the mask, I guess $80 is less painful than lung cancer! And it's a good compromise between the cheapo masks and the Trend $350+ space suit version.

Pat, I like that circle/arc maker, although a bit pricey for me. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Bosch edge guide has a pivot allowing circles & arcs. But I haven't received it yet, so I don't know, but I hope so. But I love that plexiglass design on your link.

I've been searching for the LED light which Mike mentions, which I can only find wholesale, and I think 200 of them is a little overkill. I might be able to adapt a small LED flashlight for the task.

I'll buy the Bosch guide adaptors, and keep an eye open for the guide bushing set sale.

I was also looking at the featherboards, maybe I'll make a set from the plans I'm finding, the commercial ones seem so expensive.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply, I'm looking forward to the experience (and keep reading them stickies).

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I have this clear base on one of my plunge bases, and thinking about putting another on one of my fixed bases. This does two things for you. The clear base makes it easier to see where your router bit is while making a cut. The opening to the base is sized for PC style bushings, which (at least around here) seem the most commonly available.

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After a talk with my wife, we've agreed I can put together a basic router setup in my shop. I'm just starting out and here's what I have already, or have on order:
  • Bosch 1617EVSPK Router kit
  • Bosch deluxe router guide
  • Grizzly T10432 Router Table & Stand (It's Wonderful! Thank you, Mike!!)
  • MLCS 15-piece router bit set
  • Grizzly 6-piece Round Over Bit set (On sale)
  • Several beginner's routing books (Hylton; Spielman)
  • Shop-Vac QuietPlus 16Gal 5.5 HP vacuum, 2" ID hoses

Is that a decent starter set?.
Hi Robert - Looks like you have a pretty good starter setup plus you have some great suggestions. One I would add because I started with an almost identical shop vac setup would be to add a Dust Deputy. It's amazing how fast you will fill up those Shop vac bags.
I can honestly say the thing has paid for itself, I went from about 2 + bags a month to none in almost two years.

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Mike - that acrylic sub-base is exactly what I have wanted. I was at a local wordworking store yesterday and saw one of these, actually made for the Bosch, so I definitely have this on my radar, thanks!

John - thanks for pointing out the separator cyclone device - I want to get just the normal Dust Deputy cyclone only version (about $40) and rig up my own 5-gallon bucket. I saw a video where a guy did that and built a wooden reinforcement ring where the cyclone bolts on the lid. He demonstrated how full the bucket was after 3 solid months of use (it was totally full) then opened his Ridgid shop vacuum, and there was a light dusting on the filter, and a tiny bit of sawdust in the bottom of the vacuum itself - amazing! Thanks for reinforcing that suggestion, saving the life of the Shop Vac alone makes it worthwhile. This guy implemented it because his shop vac kept getting clogged up quickly making the vac pressure useless. Thanks again!! (if only I were a rich man!)

I also saw a suggestion to get the $17 auto Vac switch from Sears Sears.com instead of the $53 iVAC Automated Shop Vacuum Switch from Woodcraft Buy iVac Automated Vacuum Switch at Woodcraft.

BTW, the Shop Vac hose diameter is a standard 2 1/2 inches, don't know how I got 2" ID!

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Mike - that acrylic sub-base is exactly what I have wanted. I was at a local wordworking store yesterday and saw one of these, actually made for the Bosch, so I definitely have this on my radar, thanks!

John - thanks for pointing out the separator cyclone device - I want to get just the normal Dust Deputy cyclone only version (about $40) and rig up my own 5-gallon bucket. I saw a video where a guy did that and built a wooden reinforcement ring where the cyclone bolts on the lid. He demonstrated how full the bucket was after 3 solid months of use (it was totally full) then opened his Ridgid shop vacuum, and there was a light dusting on the filter, and a tiny bit of sawdust in the bottom of the vacuum itself - amazing! Thanks for reinforcing that suggestion, saving the life of the Shop Vac alone makes it worthwhile. This guy implemented it because his shop vac kept getting clogged up quickly making the vac pressure useless. Thanks again!! (if only I were a rich man!)

I also saw a suggestion to get the $17 auto Vac switch from Sears Sears.com instead of the $53 iVAC Automated Shop Vacuum Switch from Woodcraft Buy iVac Automated Vacuum Switch at Woodcraft.

BTW, the Shop Vac hose diameter is a standard 2 1/2 inches, don't know how I got 2" ID!
Hi Robert - yeah, the $40 one is what I was thinking.
There is a difference in the switches IIRC. The iVac switch allows you to put the router and the vac on separate circuits, sometimes advantageous on high current draw tools. You shouldn't have any problems with the sears version. I have a regular household outlet wired to the switch and plug the router in there. Makes it easy to unplug when changing bits, etc. Occasionally I will plug the vacuum in there also and have had no problems. I don't do it all the time because everything is mobile and I usually have the vac right next to me.
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I can't run my vac on the same circuit as my planer. It'll trip on the first or second pass.

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