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I'm doing some remodeling and had to cut one of the Newell posts on the stairway since it was nailed to the step. Now...my problem is that I will need to cut both Newell posts to have the same length. I'm considering doing something fancy/decorative on the bases to make up for the lost length. Your suggestions are most welcome. Thanks!

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how do you intend to mount the posts???...

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Good question, stick486! I was considering using picket screws with stained plugs to match. Or put some sort of base with contrasting white paint to match the balusters. The Newell posts and rails are a dark stain. The original installation was a couple of nails driven at an angle. The top post that I cut was against a wall and was also glued to the sheetrock! After what little remodeling I have done, I can understand a friend who refuses to do any remodel jobs. He says all you do is correct someone else's mistakes.
Let me describe, which I should have done in the beginning: the house is a split foyer. There are two Newell posts in the LR;One post is a half-Newell and I'll bet it is glued to the sheetrock. The other two are on the first set of steps down to the foyer. I could tape and paint the other post bases to match. Thanks!

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Good question, stick486! I was considering using picket screws with stained plugs to match. Or put some sort of base with contrasting white paint to match the balusters. The Newel posts and rails are a dark stain. The original installation was a couple of nails driven at an angle. The top post that I cut was against a wall and was also glued to the sheetrock! After what little remodeling I have done, I can understand a friend who refuses to do any remodel jobs. He says all you do is correct someone else's mistakes.
Let me describe, which I should have done in the beginning: the house is a split foyer. There are two Newel posts in the LR;One post is a half-Newel and I'll bet it is glued to the sheetrock. The other two are on the first set of steps down to the foyer. I could tape and paint the other post bases to match. Thanks!

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all righty... let's knock this can of worms over...
is there a newel at the bottom of the stairs???
the half-newels need mechanical fastening...in the PDF's pick out what suits what you have the best and let us know and we can get on the same page...
can the pocket screw idea...
all plans are always subject to change...

pick one that may suit the mission......
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and you can do this in matching woods and stains...
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You're going to be fighting this all the way and it will never be strong. Stick's suggestion is the only easy way to do the job don't try to build up your newel post to make them higher this will only end up making things even weaker. To do the job right (remember what your friend said) you need to gain access to the stringer and lag the newel post there.
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The half Newell in the LR is on the front wall and I'll bet it is glued to the sheetrock like the one at the top of the steps; there is a full Newell on the last step down to the foyer. The one at the top of the steps was glued to the sheetrock and there is nothing inside the guest closet to fasten it to except sheetrock. I would start from scratch but we have hardwood floors in the LR and I'm a believer in Murphy's Law. There is a piece of wood that runs on the floor for the balusters. My thinking is that it would be a bear to start over as the flooring might be too short unless I make a piece to fit. I've never had good luck with such things. stick486, I'll take time to look at what you have put on your post and go from there. Thanks.
Just a thought- might start from scratch and put the router table to use.
Edit- there might not be enough room for the trim stick486 shows in the picture.

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Hello Stick,
I have seen the attachment set-up in your post. I need to do one for a round newel. Do you think there is a manufactured round one or will I have to fabricate myself?
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please post a picture or five on what you have...
beats guessing...

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don't try to build up your newel post to make them higher
this can be done using the right bracket assembly and mounting procedure...

now all we need is the actual details to fill in the missing information to what really needs doing or what wants to be done so we can continue on or fall back to square one..

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Hello Stick,
I have seen the attachment set-up in your post. I need to do one for a round newel. Do you think there is a manufactured round one or will I have to fabricate myself?
yes there is...
there is base trim rings if you need them too...


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