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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-26-2016, 10:03 AM Thread Starter
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Good day need some advice before making the wrong purchase. I am a DIY enthusiast that wants to do some manufacturing of side tables, dining tables etc. Dont have much space so have been contemplating a purchase of what you guys refer to as a shop saw. In South Africa I can currently get the Bosch GTS-10 XC, the Makita MLT100 or the Dewalt DW745. I will be wanting to use woods like pallet wood, supawood, pine and certain hardwoods like saligna, oak, cyprus, mahogany. Which would be the best bet for me to buy? They are all the same price give or take a few R500. Currently I can get the Makita for almost R3000 ($200 less as it is on promo). However most reviews seem to say not the Makita but rather get the Bosch. I thank you all in advance.
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Good day need some advice before making the wrong purchase. I am a DIY enthusiast that wants to do some manufacturing of side tables, dining tables etc. Dont have much space so have been contemplating a purchase of what you guys refer to as a shop saw. In South Africa I can currently get the Bosch GTS-10 XC, the Makita MLT100 or the Dewalt DW745. I will be wanting to use woods like pallet wood, supawood, pine and certain hardwoods like saligna, oak, cyprus, mahogany. Which would be the best bet for me to buy? They are all the same price give or take a few R500. Currently I can get the Makita for almost R3000 ($200 less as it is on promo). However most reviews seem to say not the Makita but rather get the Bosch. I thank you all in advance.
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First piece of advice. Please fill out your profile. Answers will depend on what part of the world you are in. It, also, helps the membership answer your questions, based on what your experience, and equipment/tool availability.

Sounds like you need what we refer to in the US as a contractors saw. Small, portable, and fairly accurate.

I am not familiar with all of the models that you have listed, but, you will get a lot of votes for the Bosch 4100. I'm not sure if it is available in SA under that name but a search of the Bosch website will get you there. It will beat out the Makita and the DeWalt hands down.

Others will jump in and help, I'm sure. We have several SA members here that I'm sure will be able to provide some better localized help.

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Welcome to the forum Lyndon. It's difficult for North American members to recommend models because most of the models sold here aren't sold elsewhere and I think that is primarily because our power systems are different so our model won't work there and yours wouldn't work here. If you can find the equivalent to the Bosch 4100 you would probably be happy with it. One member has a commercial shop with more than one of them in it he likes them so much. I like the new DeWalt's rack and pinion fence system but we've been seeing some bad reviews of their customer service lately. Bosch still understands what those words mean.
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Welcome to the forum . My biggest issue is the fence , and I would recommend getting a Beisemeyer fence .
My first saw was a Delta contractor saw with the beisemeyer fence and it was a pleasure to use .
As time went on I became more concerned with controlling the dust situation , so I have purchaced a cabinet saw .
I've seen other saws and if you compromise on the fence , getting things aligned properly can be a daunting task and ruin the whole experience .

I've also found that I'd prefer to go back to a 32" fence instead of a 53" , and use a track saw for cutting large sheet goods instead of using my table saw. I didn't know about track saws till I joined here , and had I known I would have saved myself some space and some other headaches . Plus track saws are great for accuracy and cutting angles .
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Thanks just filled out my profile details. The Bosch appears to be available here as the same model upgrade to your 4100. The Makita MLT100 appears to be the same as your 2705. The Dewalt seems to be the identical model. Just getting mixed reviews as some say the Dewalt is the best but is has a very small cutting are (if that is the correct term) whereas the Makita and Bosch have the extension on the sides you can take out. Soem say that the Makita is a bit flimsy with the fench being a bit wobbly and the cross cut guide also wobbly. The Bosch seems to have the best reviews. My real question is one able to cut hardwoods with these contractor saws?
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Can you show some pictures of what you want to make. It sounds like you might be just getting started [we all start some where]. The bigger your tables the bigger your saw needs to be as a general rule. If you are going to make really nice tables you will need a jointer and a thickness planer. Don't get me wrong you don't have to have everything at once. I doubt if there is a single person on this forum that started out with everything. That is part of the fun of it all.

I say start out with the best saw you can afford and have room for. Don't be afraid to buy good used equipment. Just don't buy cheaply made equipment you will be very sorry.
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Lyndon , I think of the three choices ypur going to get more thumbs up on the Bosch from what I've read here in the past .
As I mentioned the fence is very important to me . Hopefully someone here has that model and can confirm the quality of the fence.
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I say start out with the best saw you can afford and have room for. Don't be afraid to buy good used equipment. Just don't buy cheaply made equipment you will be very sorry.
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Hey, Lyndon; welcome!
Some background info.
-look at the full load amp rating on the motors. Manufacturers are notorious for overstating the HP ratings of power tools.
-The larger the diameter of the blade, the more effort is required to do the same amount of work...it's only the tip of the blade that's involved in cutting.
-you can use an 8" blade on a 10" saw, but obviously not the reverse. ie for more energy at the tip, on 1"+ thick hardwood, try using the 8" instead of 10" blade.
-over on this side of the pond, a 110v motor requires a 15 amp. cct. No skimping on wire size! 12ga preferred.
A thin kerf 40+ tooth blade, clean and sharp, will cut hardwood no problem assuming everything else is up to scratch

Did I mention Bosch?
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Lyndon , I think of the three choices ypur going to get more thumbs up on the Bosch from what I've read here in the past .
As I mentioned the fence is very important to me . Hopefully someone here has that model and can confirm the quality of the fence.
I purchase a Bosch 4100 several months ago. I am more then happy with the fence. It locks up solid and is easily adjustable. I have made an auxiliary fence that slips over the stock fence which make its versatility even greater.

If you decide on the Bosch (you WON'T go wrong) then make sure of what you are getting. The fence extensions are not included with the saw. They are listed as accessories in the US.

The 4100's come with a folding mobile stand, which I love. It is easy to move and folds up to a small footprint for storage. The two added extensions (outfeed and left side) were about $50 USD.

Another selling point. The Bosch is the only contractor's size saw that will accept and function with a DADO blade. None of the others that you mentioned will do this.

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