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Before coming across this site, I had planned on buying a cast iron topped table because it seemed like the best option as far as staying flat and true and having low vibration. After spending time looking around on all these posts it seems like an oak park table and their box joint and miter jigs would more than suffice for what I need. Is that all I need to get into making small boxes? Does the lack of a miter slot limit what you can do? Any input would be appreciated.
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Does the lack of a miter slot limit what you can do? Any input would be appreciated.
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Having a miter slot is a toss up with members of this fine forum. I personally don't really see the need for one. I do have the OP table and am finding I'm able to do just the same type of jobs as those with the miter slot. The OP table follows one simple rule; K.I.S.S. (keep it simple). If you intend on purchasing an OP table, you'll need the jigs to go with it. Good brass setup bars, and I suggest looking at getting spiral bits vs. straights. (Just my opinion).

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Having a miter slot is a toss up with members of this fine forum. I personally don't really see the need for one... Good brass setup bars, and I suggest looking at getting spiral bits vs. straights. (Just my opinion).
Hi Tim: I have to agree with Ken. I too am a proponent of the OakPark/Router Workshop (OP/RWS) philosophy. This is a method that you learn, just like all of the other versions of tables and boxes and other router functions. The one thing that impresses me about the OP is setup is quick and as accurate as you want it. The primary tool in the OP philosophy is the "fine adjusting tool." You must study it well ;-)

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Thanks for the replies Ken and Ron. I am really leaning towards the Oak park system. My main problem is that it looks TOO simple. I wouldn't have guessed you could get quality joints that easily. I'm glad I came across this forum. The amount of knowledge and experience here amazes me. Thanks again. Tim
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If you really want to see just how simple and fast the setup and making of the boxes. You can either get OP's dvd's or look for the RWS online. I believe it's the "woodworkingchannel". Not sure about the net address.

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If you really want to see just how simple and fast the setup and making of the boxes. You can either get OP's dvd's or look for the RWS online. I believe it's the "woodworkingchannel". Not sure about the net address.
http://www.thewoodworkingchannel.com/

I prefer the Lee Valley setup blocks to the Oak Park ones. They have a series of setup blocks that are quite lovely. Both provide similar function. Just personal preference I guess. But, just to let you know that the OP are not the only game in town.

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Thanks again guys. I've never seen the RWS, but it's coming soon to my local public tv station. My internet sevice out here in rural Minnesota is too slow to watch online. Maybe our HUGE stimulus package will bring high speed internet to my neck of the woods. Until then maybe I'll have to get a dvd or two. Thanks. Tim
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I love cast iron and never use a miter slot on a router table.
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Hi Nick. What do you see as the biggest advantages of cast over the various wood and wood composite tables out there? Most of what I'm planning on doing is pretty small in scale, so maybe cast is overkill. Thanks. Tim
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Hi Nick. What do you see as the biggest advantages of cast over the various wood and wood composite tables out there? Most of what I'm planning on doing is pretty small in scale, so maybe cast is overkill. Thanks. Tim
Hey Nick, you'll have to tell Tim what you use your routers for. Tim, I'm in agreement with you unless you're really into works of art. I'm a functional sort of guy so I just use 1"+ MDF with laminate top. I just make sure I don't get it wet. Some of the guys around here are into stuff that takes several lifetimes to learn. To them, iron is basic.

There are even guys here that take some 1/4" or 1/2" MDF and glue it up to their desired thicknesses. My first "table" was a piece of finger joint pine that was left over after I made some cheap shelves. I still have it around. Every time I go to recycle it into something else, I get nostalgic and set it aside. Maybe one day.

Moral of the story, decide what you want to do and expend the dollar accordingly. The bottom end is a scrap piece of something and learn to cut your first insert.

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