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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-14-2009, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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Default Rockler plates - Why have they stopped making them?

I've been really debating about either a phenolic or aluminum router plate since I'm not happy anymore with the one I have. But why has Rockler stop making most of their plates...even the larger ones? Just curious. Really thought there would be lots more people out there making aluminum plates but seems to be very few. I might try to see what they have and the Charlotte show this coming weekend..but hate to get there and not any good deals to be had... cause I've got my old one out and its not going back in... and it that case.. I've lost out on a week of routing.

Any they sure are proud of the aluminum ones.....
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All I know is the phenolic/plastic plate with the inserts, to shrink the opening and allow for template guides flexed too much and the 2nd, wasn't configured for inserts. I did all the template routing out of table, which wasn't a lot.

The metal plate doesn't flex, it has all the inserts needed to do everything and I think the added weight of the plate helps stabilize/dampen vibration.

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Rockler recently bought Bench Dog, so I'm assuming that's why they've "discontinued" their old aluminum plates, and have gone with the "new, larger" plates.

discontinued: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1385

new: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21299

There are, however, a number of other sources for plates.

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Rockler is closing out the smaller plate they sell for $39.99. I tried two of these and both were warped. I sent them back and ordered the "new larger" plate. It is perfectly flat and works well. It is $59.99 though. Nice well made plate, can't imagine it could ever sag.
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why have they discontinued some plates? maybe it because most people want the phenolic plates for ease of use and mounting several routers to and the phenolic plates work great. look at what the old timers recommend. bobj recommends the harbor freight plates. i hope to get a new one soon. i have a rouseeau and it is flawless. it seems that people after they find the forum think for some reason that the most expensive is best. i ask anyone who with the most expensive tools to try and show me the jigs you have and the projects finished. you see its not what you have, its what you do with what you have.
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Levon you make some good points and here I was about talked into an aluminum plate. I have a phenolic one but it has a type of tape measure made into it on both sides of the bit hole and it catches the wood sometimes. Plus after three to four years..it has a slight warp to it. The smooth surface plates look like they are a lot better..not to mention cheaper. the only drawback that I have to some of the ones that I have looked at it the centering rings are held down with 3 or more screws and to me, that would be a pain to change out when you needed to do a quick bit change of a larger or smaller size. And not sure if it makes a difference but the PC type brass guides need the 1 3/16 inset but some of the rings are 1 1/4..seems like that would throw things off a bit. I see that woodpeckers makes a phenolic plate with the snap-n-twist in type rings..maybe I'll take another look at them.
Thanks for your views.... besides... I've never had the "best" tools but I did what I had to do with the ones that I have and made it work.
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hi Palmer,

i think the 1 1/4 inch you are referring to take the pc style guides. i may be wrong on that and if i am i am sure i will be corrected. when i buy the harbor freight plate, i ma going to drill out the center ring to accept the larger guides. the rousseau and the harbor freight plates dont have screws holding the rings in place, they just pop in. the hardest part is drilling the holes to mount the router dead on center. i used a centering kit that cost 5 bucks from rousseau. but each of us have our preferences . i dont think there is a wrong way. but im pretty cheap myself. lol

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Didn't mean to raise your hackles Levon. I am a router rookie and was just relaying my experience with the Rockler aluminum plates. I was by no means implying that the "most expensive" is best. As someone just starting out, buying commercially available router table parts seems like the way to go. It gets you started and you can fine tune or build jigs, fences, etc. as you learn what you will need and how to use it. Same applies to bits, in my opinion.
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Thanks Bdog and Levon. I too must correct myself in saying that I didn't mean the "best". I was looking at a bigger picture of buying one "FLAT" plate and not have to buy another one....but as you have stated... the aluminum ones can be wrapped also. Now I know that I don't know what I am going to get?????
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Bdog,

no hackles raised, lol. it can be daunting considering what to buy and being unsure of tackling some things that seem more difficult than you want to fool with as in drilling mounting holes in a plate. it took me research and luckily my first plate came with good instructions. i am in the process of building bobj's deluxe push block. when i first saw it i couldnt understand it and sure didnt want to tackle it. after studyiing it a long time lol, i understood it and now feel confident to build it.

im pretty much a rookie myself, but have learned a lot on this forum. read all the posts you can. its amazing what you can pick up!

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