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How many router plate ring inserts do you need? One plate I am considering has three ring inserts - One ring is blank which is described as "used when initially drilling RP-60 to match up to your routerís hole pattern;" the second ring has a 2Ē opening, and the third is used for "accommodating standard template guide bushings."

Is this enough? They also sell a separate kit of 5 rings - 3/4", 1", 1-1/2", 2" and a blank ring for drilling. It seems like this might be a good addition.

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I'm not familiar with plate rings.
Do you have a link to refer to?
Sound like a good idea if I understand it. One base plate with different rings to adapt various Temp guide, have different thru hole sizes & only one time to mount the base plate instead of different baseplate for each type of bushing etc.
I'm sure someone on here has some experience with it.

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Dr. Frank is referring to the router plate rings that come in different sizes for different size bits. The main one to have is the 1 3/16 which will allow you to insert different size brass guides in the same ring. The others allow you to get a min. distance from the bits edge to the inside edge of the ring... they say the closer the better for tearout reasons and also little chance that the edge of a piece could drop down between the two and cause all sorts of rapid issues.
I'm waiting for my Woodpecker plate now and it to comes with three rings. I'll have to wait and see if I need any more because they do sell a kit with a lot more. The good thing about them is the kit doesn't contain any of the three sizes that comes with the plate...that way you are not getting dup.s of the same size.
I quess it all depends on what size diameter bits you use the most...to how many different size rings you need.

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The rings can be seen at:

jointech.com/routertops_plate-inserts.htm
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Hi Dr. Frank

This just my 2 cents..

I would pass on that plate

This is why,,the big hole size is 3 5/8" that's just a little bit small, many of the panel bits are 3 1/2" and 3 5/8" OD .
The turn lock insert are a pain to put in place and to remove, you need to have the spec.wrench on hand all the time..
You want a insert rings that you can snap in place easy...and take out easy.

Then the cost,, 50.oo for the plate and 20.oo more for the rings.
The extra rings are nice to have to choke the hole down but it's best to use the brass type,,,

The plate I recommend is the HF one, it has a 3 7/8" hole with the 3 rings,and it's only 20.oo bucks and if you want the rings to choke the hole down they are only 26.oo bucks plus you can get the brass guides for only 20.oo bucks from HF..so that's to say you can have a V8 for only 66.bucks other than paying 70.oo bucks for something less..

The bigger hole is not that big of deal unless the 1st.time you want to use a panel bit set and the bit will not spin in your mounting plate..

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How many router plate ring inserts do you need? One plate I am considering has three ring inserts - One ring is blank which is described as "used when initially drilling RP-60 to match up to your routerís hole pattern;" the second ring has a 2Ē opening, and the third is used for "accommodating standard template guide bushings."

Is this enough? They also sell a separate kit of 5 rings - 3/4", 1", 1-1/2", 2" and a blank ring for drilling. It seems like this might be a good addition.

Thanks,

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Well I have the Woodpecker and always have loved them. They sure are nice. I think I will stick with them to go with my woodpecker stuff:

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I have purchased the HF stuff and have 3 of the plates and just do not like them at all. And they do warp I do not care what anyone says, I have them and put a straight edge on them.

I think HF is hit or miss as far as their stuff and to me about 50% of what I have purchased from them over the years is okay, the other 50% is crap.
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2 rings. That's all you need. Anything more is overkill.

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The rings can be seen at:

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Which lift are you using? When I bought mine from JT, it came with a set of 5, including a blank one that I keep in place when I'm using the table saw. (The router table is part of the table saw table.) Those are phenolic. I bought an extra set from JT plus 3 extra blank ones. These are plastic.

It just feels safer to have a snug fitting plate, especially when working with smaller pieces. Plus, I think it keeps a little more dust from falling onto the motor.

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I am starting without a lift to see how it goes, and then decide whether to get a lift after I have completed some projects without it. I like the Jointech digital lift - is that the one you have, Gene?
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Well I can say that really ANY router lift is overkill too! SO is about 90% of the stuff we all love to talk about here. Really does anyone even NEED a nice router table, no you can suffice with a few piece of wood.

SO to those that say more than 2 rings is overkill I respond with, it may be, but the tighter the ring the better the dust collection and the nicer it is to work. Also you can get hurt when using very small pieces that can slip in the gap between bit and insert.

I do not think it is overkill though it may be unnecessary for some. Again to me a lift is less nec and overkill than the ring kit with 8 sizes. I mean how hard is it to move the router up with your hand.
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