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I recently built myself a Router table - around 30"x36". Made it out of work Table my Father built a long time ago. (Will post pics soon).

Will be keeping it simple, and using clamps for the fence, similar to the Oak Park design. Unless there is a better reason to mount the fence another way...?

However it seems like a T-Track might be handy to have parallel to the fence. Do you agree? If so, what are the benefits? And how far would you mount it from the fence area (and why)?

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Art, I have no tracks or slots in my table, and it's worked well that way for over 2 decades.

The problem with slots or T-track in my opinion is how far they have to be away from the bit due to the router insert plate. Of course, many have installed tracks and love them. I also worry that in a shop that has wide humidity swings the table might not stay flat with grooves put in it.

My advice is to try it without grooves first, you can always add them later
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Unless you have figured out a way to keep the fence parallel to the t-track then it's useless as far as using it for jigs. For example a miter sled or push block works better for doing the ends of rails or half lapping, etc. some do like it for attaching a feather board though but you can also make the feather board longer and clamp it to the edge instead. I put the t-track across in one of my tables to see if I liked it and wound up never using it. I also had t-tracks in that table for clamping the fence down. I went back to clamps on the newest one like yours but that is about a 50/50 deal. Either way is pretty good. I really couldn't find an advantage from one to the other.

BTW, one other option for mitering, half lapping, or doing rail ends is to make a sliding fence that rides along the edge of your table. The 90* arm on mine just misses the bit. You can drill a hole in the arm and attach an F clamp in it to hold your work if you want. If you are interested I'll either go through my uploads and find the picture or go take another one of it.

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Unless you have figured out a way to keep the fence parallel to the t-track then it's useless as far as using it for jigs. For example a miter sled or push block works better for doing the ends of rails or half lapping, etc. some do like it for attaching a feather board though but you can also make the feather board longer and clamp it to the edge instead. I put the t-track across in one of my tables to see if I liked it and wound up never using it. I also had t-tracks in that table for clamping the fence down. I went back to clamps on the newest one like yours but that is about a 50/50 deal. Either way is pretty good. I really couldn't find an advantage from one to the other.

BTW, one other option for mitering, half lapping, or doing rail ends is to make a sliding fence that rides along the edge of your table. The 90* arm on mine just misses the bit. You can drill a hole in the arm and attach an F clamp in it to hold your work if you want. If you are interested I'll either go through my uploads and find the picture or go take another one of it.
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No t track in my table. No need. There are dozens of ways to mount feather boards to the table without out a track. And, as Chuck mentioned, several methods to guide long work for end cuts.
You'd be better served with a t track mounted on the fence, either on the top or the face...or both. Lots more utility than in the table.

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Art, My portable router in a box (similar to Oak Park) uses a fence held down at one of the table with a pivot bolt, which allows me to swing the fence for adjusting closer and farther from the bit. I use a clamp to hold it to the table top once adjusted. By swinging the fence at one end I can sneak up for precise cuts. It works very well for me, and have found no draw backs. My router in a box has a 2"x 2" attached to the bottom which is clamped in my bench vice, or can be used on my workmate.
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Unless you have figured out a way to keep the fence parallel to the t-track then it's useless as far as using it for jigs. For example a miter sled or push block works better for doing the ends of rails or half lapping, etc. some do like it for attaching a feather board though but you can also make the feather board longer and clamp it to the edge instead. I put the t-track across in one of my tables to see if I liked it and wound up never using it. I also had t-tracks in that table for clamping the fence down. I went back to clamps on the newest one like yours but that is about a 50/50 deal. Either way is pretty good. I really couldn't find an advantage from one to the other.

BTW, one other option for mitering, half lapping, or doing rail ends is to make a sliding fence that rides along the edge of your table. The 90* arm on mine just misses the bit. You can drill a hole in the arm and attach an F clamp in it to hold your work if you want. If you are interested I'll either go through my uploads and find the picture or go take another one of it.
I would like to see a picture of the sliding fence, if it's not too much trouble. Thank You
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I have a Rockler table with the T track running across the front. I've never used it. What I'd really like is a T track on a tall fence, but clamping feather boards works fine. If you install a T track, I suggest you add an additional layer to the underside of the table, or use trusses to keep the thing flat, particularly if you have a higher power machine under the table.
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I got tracks all over my table

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The first one is a mitre fence sliding track. The next one is a T track for clamping end blocks (I do a lot of small blind end grooves).
The two short ones are for micrometer adjustable fence clamps.
There are 2 x T tracks on the fence, one on top and one along the top front edge also used for end stops and backing boards.

Do I "NEED" them? doubtful.
Do I "USE" them? yes, a lot.

You decide what youre going to do with the table, that will decide what you need on it.
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I used clamps to hold my fence for years but I recently added simple locks and they are very convenient. See: https://www.routerforums.com/project...ml#post1934490 for the basic idea. If your fence is longer than your table it's very easy to add.
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