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I have 2, one one each router table. mine were from Infinity tools.
If you are on 240v. these might not work.

https://www.infinitytools.com/router-speed-control

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...d_control.html

Here is a 20a. 120v.
https://www.rockler.com/router-speed-control

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Herb thak you for the links but I'm afraid 240v and for some reason my profile is USA changed it now lol


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I much prefer to take the router and plate out when changing bits.
Likewise.

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Those who have had their plate move must not have had the fence over the plate at the time. I prefer using the fence even when I am using bearing guided bits. As a consequence I've never used a starting pin as the fence makes that unnecessary. I find I have better control starting a cut using the fence plus I can see if I'm getting the full profile cut or need another pass for cleanup. It's impossible for the plate to lift with the fence over it so I guess that explains my experience with not needing to screw my plate down.
I've never had my plate move. It is a very nice fit (homemade, as is the table), don't have a fence at all, and do not screw the plate down. I've never used a starting pin, just start slowly. This has worked for me since around 1996.

Oh yeah, don't have speed control on any of my routers, and no issues at all, just start slow. Don't have any type of lift either, and don't want one. I figure I can pop my plate out, do whatever, and pop it back in with probably less time than a lift, and certainly less hassle.
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[QUOTE=TomTomthumb;2036649]Thank you all for replying to my post
Harry you are correct Makita 3612 it's not so much a speed controller that's needed more of a soft start that's required.

It has one hell of a kick when it starts I've used it a lot for kitchen worktops.

The router has had it's springs removed now and support shafts oiled. I also have a question about the air vents being exposed to saw dust now as it's inverted is this going to be a problem I will have a Vac connected to the fence.


this is the speed controller I'm now looking at. That controller looks fine but it doesn't have a socket to plug the router into like the one that I showed. My router table which I bought second hand about 18 years ago had a 3600 Makita in it, which is similar to the 3612 and there were no problems, but as you said, when freehand they kick like a mule. I replaced it with the 3612C which is soft start and variable speed.
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Well covered subject. Not much to add. I have a box under the router that I now keep open for air flow. Started with a Bosch 1617, but Harry converted me to a Triton TRA001, which has a built in lift. Spring removed. Soft start, variable speed. Plenty of HP for any material. Here, the cost of the Triton is far less than a lift alone. Some old tools are great, but technologyt genrally improves over time. I also use the fence over the plate and don't lock it down. One thing I like about the Woodpecker plate is the twist lock (bayonet) inserts. No more lost screws. I think you can get something similar in other brands, but don't know which.

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Those who have had their plate move must not have had the fence over the plate at the time. I prefer using the fence even when I am using bearing guided bits. As a consequence I've never used a starting pin as the fence makes that unnecessary. I find I have better control starting a cut using the fence plus I can see if I'm getting the full profile cut or need another pass for cleanup. It's impossible for the plate to lift with the fence over it so I guess that explains my experience with not needing to screw my plate down.
Charles, I assure you that I did have the fence over the plate at the time - I was working on the edge of a long board. Can’t remember which bit I was using, could have been a large mitre-lock bit. I also thought it would have been impossible for the plate to lift up, but as I said, it did lift and in so doing, bent the substantial aluminium right-angle (2” by 2”) profile which was the back of the fence.
Another time when I had a partial lift (the plate did not come right out, and only flexed the profile), was when I was using a Jacobs Powerlift chuck. That time, I was using a 1/4” shaft bit with the Jacobs adapter sleeve. Again, it struck some knot - the bit and adapter came out of the chuck, the bit went flying, the sleeve was damaged, and the plate was partially out of place - and it is a snug fit.
After that experience, I suddenly no longer found it a bind to reach under the table to hold in the shaft-lock to change bits.
What happened to the Powerlift, anyway? Have never seen it mentioned on this site.
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It horrifies me to read that so many people find it ok to run a router in there table's with out fixing it down.

would the same people drive around in their cars with the engine just sitting on there engine mounts??. I like my fingers,eye and arms in fact Im quite happy to have all my bits where god placed them. for just for bolts and to bend down and replace a cutter in the router is a small cost to pay for keep all my bits safe.

I have fitted my plate a "trend" BUT I may change it as their is too many rounded edges on it for my liking "yes" it's moulded and not machined so the under side has a small radius where the thickness changes.



anyway there will be no router mounted Frisbees flying around my garage lol
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It horrifies me to read that so many people find it ok to run a router in there table's with out fixing it down.

would the same people drive around in their cars with the engine just sitting on there engine mounts??. I like my fingers,eye and arms in fact Im quite happy to have all my bits where god placed them. for just for bolts and to bend down and replace a cutter in the router is a small cost to pay for keep all my bits safe.

I have fitted my plate a "trend" BUT I may change it as their is too many rounded edges on it for my liking "yes" it's moulded and not machined so the under side has a small radius where the thickness changes.



anyway there will be no router mounted Frisbees flying around my garage lol
I don’t think there’s a recorded incident of a router overcoming gravity and floating out of the table top , but I’ve been wrong before.

Could be a safety concern on the ISS though
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It horrifies me to read that so many people find it ok to run a router in there table's with out fixing it down.
Been doing it that way since I made my first table, around 1996/7, with no issues. You would hate my saw, when I bought it I took the blade guard and splitter off. I'm 78, and no accidents with any saw. The key is, be a bit scared of your tools, be cautious, and pay attention to what you are doing. One thing I see a lot of is people sawing, and standing in line with the blade. Any kick back would fly right into him/her. I always stand out of line with the saw, even tho I have never had a kickback.

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