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"There is no advantage to cutting off the plug from the router cable - on the contrary, you may need to pull the route out for freehand use sometime. Leave well enough alone."
-Biagio

Amen to that! No advantages to hardwiring it into the switch, except saving a couple of bucks/pounds on components.
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Looking forward to seeing the project. Glad you worked out the wiring. It forced me to think for the first time in awhile .
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Darned switches !!!

I am also nearing completion of my R/T. I have been accumulating parts for it for several years. I recently opened the box for the Freud switch I bought, and found it to be a switch that is made to install on a table made from steel angles like several shop tables I own. Problem is it is not made to mount on a wooden panel. I guess I will attempt to modify it or the table. I like Chuck's idea of mounting it on the top and am considering it seriously.
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That sounds kind of similar to my switch. I ended up using a small Really Useful Box to house the switch and cut a couple of brackets out of an old piece of aluminium casing I had. The box fitted really well and I would definitely say something similar is worth looking at. I find that I can very comfortably hit the paddle with my knee should something go wrong and I don't want to let go.
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Jon, just make sure that your ins and outs are correct. Perhaps reproduce the diagram stamped on the side of the switch?
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Assuming that your ins and outs are correct, A1 should be connected to the Live In (13). In your block diagram it is connected to the Live-out. That won”t work. Neither will connecting it to 23, which is the neutral In. The neutral to the electromagnet is internally connected.
The switch is designed to release if the mains supply cuts out (No Volts Release), so you are not caught unawares should the mains come on again while you are fiddling with the cutting parts. So the electromagnet must be powered directly from the mains Live.
There is no advantage to cutting off the plug from the router cable - on the contrary, you may need to pull the route out for freehand use sometime. Leave well enough alone.
But give some consideration to where Chuck has mounted his switch (on the fence). I plan to move mine there.

Tom, yes our switches are double pole, switching live and neutral together.
As it turned out, I had indeed misunderstood the diagram on the side of the switch. A1 is in fact internally connected to 14 and should have been externally connected to 24 instead. I've done that now and am happy to report that all is good

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"There is no advantage to cutting off the plug from the router cable - on the contrary, you may need to pull the route out for freehand use sometime. Leave well enough alone."
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Amen to that! No advantages to hardwiring it into the switch, except saving a couple of bucks/pounds on components.
Yeah, I've come to the same conclusion. It'll be rare that I'll take this router off the table to use, but you can bet that the day after I cut the plug off, I'll need to use it freehand!!

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Looking forward to seeing the project. Glad you worked out the wiring. It forced me to think for the first time in awhile .
Some finished pics up on the original thread. Don't look too closely at it though

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I'm glad you got yours working Jon. I tried every combination possible with mine even to the point of adding shunts across to the extra terminals in case both ins and both outs needed to be used. Then I read in Amazons reviews that a small but not insignificant percentage is defective. I was able to find a box that it fit. I think it was the same plastic waterproof box I used for the switch I have now.

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I'm glad you got yours working Jon. I tried every combination possible with mine even to the point of adding shunts across to the extra terminals in case both ins and both outs needed to be used. Then I read in Amazons reviews that a small but not insignificant percentage is defective. I was able to find a box that it fit. I think it was the same plastic waterproof box I used for the switch I have now.
I think that that's always a gamble with these generic Chinese parts. I checked the reviews of the seller that I ordered this one from as well as the reviews of the switch it's self. The switch was made by Sodial, a company I've always had good results from in the past and the seller had some good reviews for customer service so I figured if it did go down the drain I'd at least be able to get a refund. When the switch wouldn't work I must admit my first conclusion was to fear the worst rather than any chance that I might possible have made a mistake LOL!!
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