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Hi all. First time poster here. I'm an amateur woodworker looking to up my game and make the transition to better tools that will stand the test of time. I'm very close to purchasing a Woodpeckers phenolic top, PRL-V2 lift, and Super Fence. I'm planning to build my own cabinet rather than use their steel stand. I like the idea of a phenolic top over MDF and iron due to durability and low maintenance.

For those who have an Incra LS setup though... am I going to regret not waiting the 15-18 weeks for an Incra instead? I called last week and they confirmed shipment likely wouldn't happen before the end of the year.

If it helps, I'm gearing up to build some built-ins so I plan to use it for dovetails and simple shaker-style cabinet doors. I've been building wooden cases for modular synthesizers too, and this would certainly help make those projects go faster. Is Incra so much better for that kind of work that I should hold out?
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I would say just make your own.
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Hello Jonas, welcome to the forums...
We're happy you found us...

Here is some recommended ''light reading'' of pertinent/relative information on routering that we've put together at this here link for ya...
You should find most everything there (at least most of it) quite useful and a lot of help to get you up and running in the world of routers...
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Hi all. First time poster here. I'm an amateur woodworker looking to up my game and make the transition to better tools that will stand the test of time. I'm very close to purchasing a Woodpeckers phenolic top, PRL-V2 lift, and Super Fence. I'm planning to build my own cabinet rather than use their steel stand. I like the idea of a phenolic top over MDF and iron due to durability and low maintenance.

For those who have an Incra LS setup though... am I going to regret not waiting the 15-18 weeks for an Incra instead? I called last week and they confirmed shipment likely wouldn't happen before the end of the year.

If it helps, I'm gearing up to build some built-ins so I plan to use it for dovetails and simple shaker-style cabinet doors. I've been building wooden cases for modular synthesizers too, and this would certainly help make those projects go faster. Is Incra so much better for that kind of work that I should hold out?
I used phenolic over an architectural aluminum torsion frame on top of a salvaged plywood cabinet...
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the end space is for using a a bolt on Leigh D4R, FMT and a Lion Knife when needed...

as for the Incra... you won't regret not using it... thousands of RT's plus don't have one and some spectacular work is turned out on Incra - less tables...

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Hello Jonas, welcome to the forums...
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Thanks Stick486! I'll give all this a solid read-through. I'm definitely finding that there are so many choices it's easy to get stalled out choosing something, but I also really like to do my research first.
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Thanks Stick486! I'll give all this a solid read-through. I'm definitely finding that there are so many choices it's easy to get stalled out choosing something, but I also really like to do my research first.
indecisiveness can make things go sideways...
some times, - ''I'm sure glad I didn't do that''....
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Welcome aboard Jonas. I had built my router table long before I learned about the LS Positioner and haven't regretted it as I added a router table to my Sawstop and got the LS positioner for that. Now I have two options for router table use. With the LS I can attach the Incra Wonder Fence and do all the joint work on my larger pieces I can't do easily on the router table itself having the full table saw surface to work with. On the downside this is pricey but I didn't do that all at once but rather as the shop evolved.
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Welcome, Jonas...I'm sure you'll be hearing from Incra owners soon...

When I shopped for the Incra, asked here and a couple of other forums, I decided that owning the Incra system is more a matter of "want" and not "need". The biggest advantage seemed to be in the templates that allow one to make all sorts of joints much easier than other methods. Its repeatability and fine adjustments is also a big feature. The length of the positioner is also a big plus as it allows for bigger pieces.

I finally passed on it and decided to eventually build my own cabinet and continue using a more simple fence system in the meantime.

Is it worth waiting for...? I would suggest that if you want the Incra system I would build a simple table and fence system for use while you wait for it or use what you have now. Do you have any immediate projects that only the Incra can satisfy...?

15 to 18 weeks is a long time but it will pass quickly...I wonder if people are hoarding Incra's too...

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A fence for a router is not the same as a fence for a table saw. A simple board clamped to a piece of wood will give you the same result (99 percent of the time) as a $200 dollar fence. The Incra system is great if you want to make fancy joints but for everyday routing, it's not necessary. When you set up the fence all you are doing is trying to keep the wood from shifting on the bit. For this, you need a set of feather boards to hold it tight. Most bits have bearings so that means your fence can't be placed any farther back than the bit. In very rare instances you may have to put the fence back a few inches but I can count on one hand the number of times I have had to do that in my lifetime. Put your money into a bigger top. If you are making doors a 4foot table would be ideal. Call some used office furniture stores and see if they have any old modular furniture (cubical) workstation tops. They are thick, smooth, and just the right size. And sometimes you can get one for free.
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Hi Jonas,

I am a newbie, and my skills are terrible. Incra system is incredible. It helps so much. The repeatability, the precision is incredible. It lets me do things that I could never do using a regular fence. I am sure there are many, many people on this board that can do better than I without the Incra system because of their skill level. I just do not have the skills or experience. The Incra system helps me not be so frustrated. I would wait years for the Incra System. It is that good.
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