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Hi,

I am going to make a basic router table and have aquired a piece if 3/8 aluminium plate about 12 x 9 in size

I was just going to cut a 3/4 inch hole in it mainly to use 1/2 inch straight bits.

After I started to think about it and read,I am starting to think that I will probably end up using this for other bits (Rounding over etc) and the 3/4 hole will be too small.

I was thinking of cutting a 2inch square hole in the aluminium and rebating it to take 1/4 perspex or plastic to use as an insert "ring".

I thought square for ease of cutting.

Firstly I am not sure if I can machine the aluminium easily to cut the rebate and secondly if the square perspex/plastic will work.

All the ones I have seen are round for some reason????.

OR, am I wasting my time with the ring insert idea?

Thanks for any advice.

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Hi Greg, It really depends on what you need your table to do for you. If you're certain that at some point later in time that you won't need large/wider bits, then keep the hole just a tad larger than the largest bit you'll use. Kinda like you... I don't run huge bits on my little table, so I have a 1" hole in the top... nice n simple. Sure, you can get the nice pre-cut mounting plates with replaceable inserts... pretty cheaply these days, but if you don't need it, why bother.
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Hello Greg; I think that i can refer you to aother link.
http://www.routerforums.com/guide-bu...ase-plate.html
I hope it will get you there, I can tell you that i would go with the round insert hole. the teason is that almost all companies make round inserts. Welcome and enjoy.

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Hi Greg

It's not just for using the big bits but you can use the bigger hole to switch the bits out from the top side of the table table with a offset wrench..you don't need a router that puts the chuck above the table top to change out the bits with a bigger hole..

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A while back I posted this http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...r-table-2.html

Our tops are close to the same. find someone with a lathe big enough, to chuck the plate and turn your inserts out then you can make as many inserts as needed,
All though as Bobj3 stated the aluminum can make unwanted marks on your work keep it well waxed,

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Thanks Guys for the fast replies.

I might take the aluminium to a machine shop and see what they will charge to machine a rebate in it.(after I get the inserts)

Its funny,but by the time you buy the Aluminium and get it machine,then get the inserts,I reckon its cheaper to buy a plate already made up!
Oh well

Hey Bob,They are the words from a great song.Just got it last week!

Thanks again

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Hi Greg

Your welcome for my small part, it's hard to beat the HF plate,, 20.oo bucks,,and it's all done...they sale that same plate every where..

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I'm not a real big fan of ALUM....it will put the little marks on the stock that's a real pain to get off the stock..many sale and make ALUM. plates but they are coated and in time they will do the same wax works but then you are putting wax on the stock that will seal the wood..it's not like putting wax on wood stock,it sinks into the wood but the alum., it can't sink in..so to say it gets transfered to the lumber..and will show up at finish time.. it's true you can wipe the stock down with some paint thinner /or ? to remove the wax but why not use the right plate to start off with....not to say anything about raising the grain and re-sanding it down..

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Thanks Guys for the fast replies.

I might take the aluminium to a machine shop and see what they will charge to machine a rebate in it.(after I get the inserts)

Its funny,but by the time you buy the Aluminium and get it machine,then get the inserts,I reckon its cheaper to buy a plate already made up!
Oh well

Hey Bob,They are the words from a great song.Just got it last week!

Thanks again

Cheers

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Your welcome for my small part, it's hard to beat the HF plate,, 20.oo bucks,,and it's all done...they sale that same plate every where..


I'm not a real big fan of ALUM....it will put the little marks on the stock that's a real pain to get off the stock..many sale and make ALUM. plates but they are coated and in time they will do the same wax works but then you are putting wax on the stock that will seal the wood..it's not like putting wax on wood stock,it sinks into the wood but the alum., it can't sink in..so to say it gets transfered to the lumber..and will show up at finish time.. it's true you can wipe the stock down with some paint thinner /or ? to remove the wax but why not use the right plate to start off with....not to say anything about raising the grain and re-sanding it down..

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Hi Bob,

I just go a shipping quote from Harbour Freight which makes the total cost about $70.00. US

Is the quality of their plates pretty good.

I can pick up the "Woodpeckers TLR router plate" for about $20.00 more down here,but they are out of stock at the moment.

I appreciate your input and advise.

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Hi Bob,

I just go a shipping quote from Harbour Freight which makes the total cost about $70.00. US

Is the quality of their plates pretty good.

I can pick up the "Woodpeckers TLR router plate" for about $20.00 more down here,but they are out of stock at the moment.

I appreciate your input and advise.

Regards

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