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Hey gang,
Having a problem finding an 1 1/4" bushing to fit the 1 1/4" bushing adapter insert that fits my Rockler plate. That's the only size that fits my plate.
It was a large blank plate ( new style ) I drill to accept my Ryobi.
Just about every bushing set I am finding is either 1 3/16" or 1 3/8" OD.

Can I make one to fit out of the blank insert I purchased or am I SOL ?
Rockler doesn't even sell a 1 1/4" OD bushing, yet that's all they offer for the large plate ?
I have been getting very frustrated with them lately for things like this. I could understand if it were a discontinued model but its actually the new and improved model they just came out with.
WTF ?

If I absolutely have to I'll just make an insert out of acrylic and buy what ever insert set is most widely used by manufacturers so I'll be set for the vast majority of templates and what now.
Or I could just make 2 or 3 different sizes to cover them all. I have loads of sheet acrylic in 0.220 and 0.180 something thickness. I could take some weldon and glue up a couple pieces together, use the circle cutter on my drill press, blah blah blah........... if I have to. But damn it.... I shouldn't have to ya know.

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Hey gang,
Having a problem finding an 1 1/4" bushing to fit the 1 1/4" bushing adapter insert that fits my Rockler plate. That's the only size that fits my plate.
It was a large blank plate ( new style ) I drill to accept my Ryobi.
Just about every bushing set I am finding is either 1 3/16" or 1 3/8" OD.

Can I make one to fit out of the blank insert I purchased or am I SOL ?
Rockler doesn't even sell a 1 1/4" OD bushing, yet that's all they offer for the large plate ?
I have been getting very frustrated with them lately for things like this. I could understand if it were a discontinued model but its actually the new and improved model they just came out with.
WTF ?

If I absolutely have to I'll just make an insert out of acrylic and buy what ever insert set is most widely used by manufacturers so I'll be set for the vast majority of templates and what now.
Or I could just make 2 or 3 different sizes to cover them all. I have loads of sheet acrylic in 0.220 and 0.180 something thickness. I could take some weldon and glue up a couple pieces together, use the circle cutter on my drill press, blah blah blah........... if I have to. But damn it.... I shouldn't have to ya know.


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I thought that's what I would have to do. ( sort'a why I mentioned it above. already have the ring too...)
But really... a guy shouldn't have to do that. I mean why sell an bushing insert in a size no one makes bushings for. and then offer it to fit your brand new line of plates.

Its just a PITA. Guess I'll just have to buy my choice of bushings a head of time then so I can make the shoulder the right depth and diameter correct.
Aye yi yi..... :P
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I know what you mean,PITA , but I'm sure you are not the 1st.that ran into that error,,,maybe grab the guy behind the counter..and say what the heck..

But it's quick and easy fix, just like below..two drill bits and you have it done in about 5 mins. or less.. I do suggest the 1 1/2" size,,1 3/16" bit is hard to come by but the 1 1/2" is in most sets....along with the 1 3/4" ...

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I thought that's what I would have to do. ( sort'a why I mentioned it above. already have the ring too...)
But really... a guy shouldn't have to do that. I mean why sell an bushing insert in a size no one makes bushings for. and then offer it to fit your brand new line of plates.

Its just a PITA. Guess I'll just have to buy my choice of bushings a head of time then so I can make the shoulder the right depth and diameter correct.
Aye yi yi..... :P



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Thanks Bob !

I think what I'll have to do 1st though is mount the blank insert in the plate and put a 1/4 or 1/8th inch spiral bit in the router and run it up through so I get true center location.
Then take the plate over to the drill press.
Sound good ?

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I suggest you screw the ring plate to some scrap stock,chuck up a 1/16" bit in the drill press,use the bit and the hole to line it up then clamp it in place.

Once it's in place cut the bigger hole 1st. (i/8" deep) then cut out the center hole,then chuck up the bigger bit one more time and clean out the hole one more time,use the smaller bit to cut a pocket hole so you can put the guide in place to make sure it's right and it's flat with the plate.once your sure then remove it from the drill press and your set to use it..

You can also use a 1/8" router bit in the table to find the center but the plate has a center mark on it ,just for that type of job

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Thanks Bob !

I think what I'll have to do 1st though is mount the blank insert in the plate and put a 1/4 or 1/8th inch spiral bit in the router and run it up through so I get true center location.
Then take the plate over to the drill press.
Sound good ?



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+1 on 1-1/2".

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"+1 on 1-1/2"."

Please explain Jim.

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Sorry guys but what do these last 2 posts have to do with Duanes question ?
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"+1 on 1-1/2"."

Please explain Jim.
I'm a real fan of the 1-1/2" guides, over the 1-3/16" (Porter Cable standard) ones.

I started with the small ones but replaced the base plate on one of my routers with one of the larger ones after hearing you, BJ and others extoll the virtues. I've still got a 1-3/16" plate on some of my routers (and have both sized bushings) but my "go-to" is 1-1/2". Support of the larger bushing is just too valuable for my uses.

Using a 1/2" bit in the 1-1/2"OD bushing gives a 1/2" offset. Then using a 1/2" flush bit or a 1/4" bit in a 3/4"OD guide gives you the original size. Handy for duplicating parts, such as the plate I inlaid into my workbench for a pin router arm and the blank plate that replaces it most of the time.

Another advantage is for cutting larger mortises. A 1-1/2" wide slotted template would center mortises up to 1" wide. I haven't needed anything that large yet though the time will come.

I can see why you like the 40mm (even larger) ones and why BJ turns 2" and up guides on his lathe.

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