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Default Table mounting questions for a Craftsman router.

I bought the Craftsman Combo router back in June and have been using it some since then. The first project was using the plunge base to create a table for the fixed base. Since then I have only been using the router in the table with the table setting on saw horses. With it setting on the table it's easy to reach under the table top and turn the router on.

After Christmas I am going to start building my work bench and I am mounting the RT top into the bench. I am going to have drawers and doors on the bench so I am not going to have that easy access anymore.

First Question -- Is there a problem with running the power cord to a switched outlet and just leaving the switch on the router in the ON position?


Second, I have the fixed base mounted in a JessEm plate. I drilled and countersunk the mounting holes and while I was at it I added a hole for above table adjusting. However, I can't seem to make any adjustments unless I reach down and open the motor locking lever. This has been just while testing with an allen wrench since I don't have a long tool that will reach from the table top.

It might just be that everything is dirty right now. I have been using the router and now it's getting hard to adjust the bit. If I want to raise or lower the bit I have to open the lock and then bump the router while turning the adjustment knob. I am going to blow it all out and try it again.

But... with that said, should I be able to adjust the height of the bit without having to open the locking lever?

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Yes you can leave the switch on the router & use an auxillary switch to turn it on & off. i use this in my tables. For the bench I would put a door in front of the router compartment so you could still get to the router. I would not block the router with drawers in front of it to make it inaccessible. Some routers you need to push the pin to lock the collet to use the wrench to loosen nut. I reach under the table to lock the collet in position when set.

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Yes you can leave the switch on the router & use an auxillary switch to turn it on & off. i use this in my tables. For the bench I would put a door in front of the router compartment so you could still get to the router. I would not block the router with drawers in front of it to make it inaccessible. Some routers you need to push the pin to lock the collet to use the wrench to loosen nut. I reach under the table to lock the collet in position when set.

Well, the router will be in a compartment with a door on it. Nothing like drawers or anything in front of it.

Most of the time when I am changing bits I have just been pulling the router and insert out of the table and do it more eye level. My big issue now is wanting to adjust the height of the bit without having to open the door every time.

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But... with that said, should I be able to adjust the height of the bit without having to open the locking lever?

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No..you need to open the locking lever to adjust the height and then close the lever to lock it in place..I know it sort of defeats the purpose of having the above the table height adjustment in the first place, but after a while you do get used to it and it's not really that big of a deal.

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Bob,

Thanks for the input... It's a big help.


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JessEm. I don't know if you are using one if so they don't need to locked but if you are using the Craftsman you should lock in place..
I am using the JessEm insert plate like the one seen here.

Buy Rout-R-Plate at Woodcraft.com

I am assuming that you were saying that if I used this plate I am OK but if I use the Craftsman plate that I needed to lock it into the table. Or were you saying that if I was using the Craftsman router in this plate it has to be locked to the table.


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I'm not a big fan of doors on the front of the cabinet,,they look nice but a real PITA , not to say anything about the heat from the router, it's a motor and it will get hot if you enclose it..it's not made to run upside down and in a small box..
Well, I was going to put a door on it and then mount in some dust collection into the compartment. It would probably be around the size compartment that Norm has in his NYW table. I figured that as long as I kept the air flowing in the compartment while using the router it should be OK.

Thanks for the info!


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No..you need to open the locking lever to adjust the height and then close the lever to lock it in place..I know it sort of defeats the purpose of having the above the table height adjustment in the first place, but after a while you do get used to it and it's not really that big of a deal.
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Ahh... it kind of does defeat the purpose but I guess that's the price of buying a $119.00 router vs a $300.00 one . I can live with that. Anyway, it's still much easier to open the locking lever without looking than trying to adjust the height without looking under the router.

This also helps me decide on what I want to do with my bench. I know know that I need easy access to the router while in use and a door might not be the way to go. Then again, I might just put a door on the cavity that opens all the way, flush with the front of the bench and keep it open while using the router. That way things are hidden when not in use and has good air flow and access while in use.


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That's fine but make it easy to pull the plug b/4 you work on the router in any way,, bit change.etc. you don't want it to power up ...the easy way for me I put in a switch in with a outlet in the same box, I always pull the plug when changing anything on the router, it's habit you must get in..I know it sounds like over kill but things just happen so quick ..
Ok Bob, I get what you are saying here. But I have to admit that I hate the idea of pulling the plug on an electrical device in a high dust environment. Even with pulling the dust with a fence mounted collection there will still be a ton of dust in the cabinet area. Have you ever heard of a problem with fires or anything if the plug creates a spark in the area?

What I was thinking about was a two switch system with one being inside the cabinet like you say with an outlet and switch in a single box, and a second switch on the outside of the bench on the other side and outside of the cabinet.

So during use the inside switch is on and I can turn the unit on and off with the outside switch. Then when doing bit changes and other work with the router the outside and inside switch are turned off. This would require both switches to be turned on by accident to power up the router.

I had also been thinking about putting the outside switch behind the cabinet door so it could not be accidentally turned on. But with what I have read in this thread I might be using the router with the door open and only have it closed when not using the router.

I guess what would really be cool would be finding a safety interlock that could be incorporated into a cabinet door. As long as I was able to provide good air flow for the router I could use it with the door closed and when open the interlock could make sure power could not be applied to the router.

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Yeah I know.... KISS... Most of my great and expensive ideas normally never come to pass and I will probably just put the plug close to the front of the cabinet and switch the entire outlet. That way I can unplug fast and change my bits.

I might even make it easier and just drill a hole in the cabinet and run the cord outside to a switched outlet. That way I could kill power to the outlet, unplug and not worry about it being in a dusty environment.

If I can find a switched outlet that will switch both of the plug-ins I can use the same switch to turn on the shop vac at the same time as the router.

Not that I am lazy or anything...

ok... Enough hanging out here on Router forum... Time to go Christmas shopping.

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Bob,

Thanks for the input... It's a big help.




I am using the JessEm insert plate like the one seen here.

Buy Rout-R-Plate at Woodcraft.com

I am assuming that you were saying that if I used this plate I am OK but if I use the Craftsman plate that I needed to lock it into the table. Or were you saying that if I was using the Craftsman router in this plate it has to be locked to the table.




Well, I was going to put a door on it and then mount in some dust collection into the compartment. It would probably be around the size compartment that Norm has in his NYW table. I figured that as long as I kept the air flowing in the compartment while using the router it should be OK.

Thanks for the info!


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In my opinion If you were going to put a door on the compartment & use dust collection then the door would have to be closed to create a good vacuum to clean out compartment good. I like the vacuum idea better than just leaving the door open while in use.

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