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I picked up the Route-R-Joint system at a woodworking show over the weekend and am having a devil of a time with it.
My joints come out looking great and seem to line up well with each other but are too tight to put together without cracking the wood even using the smallest diameter guide bushing.

Anyone else use this successfully?
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Hi Trent

They are very tricky to cut,,you should have a air blow gun by to blow out the sockets, just a little saw dust in the pocket will stop the guide from doing it's job, one little chip will give you a error at glue up time and it only takes one socket to be off that little bit..

Be sure to use the right guide,,you will need to mike the ones you got with the jig...and RTM to know what one needs to be in place..

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I picked up the Route-R-Joint system at a woodworking show over the weekend and am having a devil of a time with it.
My joints come out looking great and seem to line up well with each other but are too tight to put together without cracking the wood even using the smallest diameter guide bushing.

Anyone else use this successfully?



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I picked up the Route-R-Joint system at a woodworking show over the weekend and am having a devil of a time with it.
My joints come out looking great and seem to line up well with each other but are too tight to put together without cracking the wood even using the smallest diameter guide bushing.

Anyone else use this successfully?
I have one, Trent and it has been awhile since I used it I would have to go over the instructions and watch the DVD, with that said, I would call Woodline as there customer support if fantastic. I will go to my "Man Cave" and have a look at my instructions and get back to you..By the way, what joint are you attempting?

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Have you accurately centred the guide bush?
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I have been using the .308 guide bushing as it is recommended when the joints are tight but no luck.
I make multiple passes cutting to clear out the dust and chips. I keep going till it's all clean and is not taking off wood any longer.

My guide bushing is centered, it fits very snugly into the plate and does not move around.
The one issue I DO have is that my PC router in the table does not adjust freely. Every time I raise the bit the router is tipping in the base and going off center and I have to fiddle around with it to get it centered again. Cannot figure out why it is doing that but it is new and I am about ready to bring it back.
In any event, I made sure the bit was straight up through the center of the guide, the guide did not move and I used the smallest guide. But these joints come out tight.

I need to practice more but I do not have suitable scrap. All I have in the area is Home Depot and all their wood is 1". I have a jointer/planer combo on the way but not sure how long it will be before it arrives.
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I picked up the Route-R-Joint system at a woodworking show over the weekend and am having a devil of a time with it.
My joints come out looking great and seem to line up well with each other but are too tight to put together without cracking the wood even using the smallest diameter guide bushing.

Anyone else use this successfully?
I'm also having a problem w my new Route-R- Joint sys.... first off my bit won't center in the guide bushing -- and joints seem cut smooth and clean I can't get the 2 pieces to seat even w a big fine adjustment tool..
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I'm also having a problem w my new Route-R- Joint sys.... first off my bit won't center in the guide bushing -- and joints seem cut smooth and clean I can't get the 2 pieces to seat even w a big fine adjustment tool..
That's what is happening with me.
The main problem with centering the bit is with the guide bushing in the plate.
I have a Woodpecker plate and the PC style bushings I picked up at WoodCraft just do not seat down properly and I think it is tilted to one side a bit.
The guy that makes the Route-R-Joint system said I could send him my plate and he would machine it out for a perfect fit. I am going to have to take him up on it. Not sure if it is the Woodpecker plates or the WoodCraft bushings but both claim to be PC style. I have three of those size throat plates so I can send one to have it precision machined and still have two with original sizing.

Another problem I had with the system is that most of the templates were mis-cut. One side is deeper than the other so it goes at a slight angle. Have to exchange them for properly cut ones.
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I'm not familiar with that particular jig (I use the Incra and Katie jigs), but here's a couple of ideas to check...

As for tightness of the joint, as BobJ says "The deeper the bit the tighter the fit."

The other thing is to measure your bit carefully. If the bit is off-tolerance you can see that. In a precision joint like a dovetail, precise dimensions are important.

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