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Eventually I'll probably wind up with a store-bought table, but for now I'm anxious to get started and on the cheap. I've been thinking about building something very simple along the lines of Hylton's " Po' Boy" table, and two questions come immediately to mind.

First, for my first effort I'd definitely like to direct-mount my PC 890 using the fixed base. Would I give up too much of the usable bit height for general purpose use by going with 3/4" plywood as he shows?

Secondly, is there an opening diameter for the bit hole (probably wrong terminology) that would accommodate the most often-used bits without getting too big to be safe? I know the real answer is what are you going to do with it but I'm very much a beginner if that helps.

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hi Ed,
welcome to the forum. you could route out material slightly larger than you router base on the backside of the top.

but!!!! you will lose lots of options by doing this. with a 20 buck insert plate , you can remove the router easily to change bits, work on the router and adjustment, and most important of all, take an air hose and blow out the sawdust every now and then.

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Hi Ed

3/4" is a big deal, just buy a plate and do it right from the get go..
It's only 20 bucks and worth every dime.

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Eventually I'll probably wind up with a store-bought table, but for now I'm anxious to get started and on the cheap. I've been thinking about building something very simple along the lines of Hylton's " Po' Boy" table, and two questions come immediately to mind.

First, for my first effort I'd definitely like to direct-mount my PC 890 using the fixed base. Would I give up too much of the usable bit height for general purpose use by going with 3/4" plywood as he shows?

Secondly, is there an opening diameter for the bit hole (probably wrong terminology) that would accommodate the most often-used bits without getting too big to be safe? I know the real answer is what are you going to do with it but I'm very much a beginner if that helps.

Thanks all,

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Ed:
A couple of months ago I was in the same situation as yourself. I was eyeing commercially built tables. Nearly bought one. Was also wondering about direct mount . . . just to get started, get a feel for things to see if pursuing this further was going to be worthwhile for me.

The people here are fanatics, of course (I mean that in a nice way). There were all "Oh, don't buy....build your own. It'll be so much better!"

Well, I thought about things for a bit and decided to do what they suggested. I bought a plastic plate for $30 and taxes. I wanted the option of a using panel raising bits so was convinced I needed a 3 1/4hp machine. So I bought the cheapest available ($100 CDN plus taxes.)

I built the table into the top of an existing workbench and built a fence out of MDF. Now I look at the dinky commercial tables on the market and think I did the right thing.

The fanatics are right. Build your own is the way to go. It won't take long at all once the decision is made. My table ain't pretty(image attached), being built into that grungy workbench top. It isn't "furniture." But it works as well as the masterpieces that many here have built.

And, no, you can't even begin to use bits to their full profile with a direct mount to 3/4" stock without using a collet extension that would cost more than the plate in the first place.
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It's not the cost of the plate, it's the installation. It may not be difficult in the general scheme of things but remember I've never held a running router until this week.
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It's not the cost of the plate, it's the installation. It may not be difficult in the general scheme of things but remember I've never held a running router until this week.
People here will direct you to videos as to how to proceed with this. If you screw it up, what is lost? MDF is cheap. Mine worked the first time, although it isn't perfect.

(OMG, I'm starting to sound like one of these fanatics!)

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People here will direct you to videos as to how to proceed with this. If you screw it up, what is lost? MDF is cheap. Mine worked the first time, although it isn't perfect.

(OMG, I'm starting to sound like one of these fanatics!)
Your effort looks pretty darn good to me!

I'd appreciate links to those videos.
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Hi Ed

You don't need to drop it into a pocket hole, just glue and screw on some MDF/true 1/4" thick plywood/hardboard/1/4" thick plastic around the plate, than just jig saw a hole out to let the router drop in the hole that should help..

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Search google for Routing With Tom O'Donnell Routing with Tom O'Donnell - Google Videos

He is a member of the forum and has some videos on google. Are a lot of others that can be found search google. Router Workshop has some stuff if I recall correctly, some of the sites that sell stuff have videos showing the products in use.
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Just finished my table this a.m. Went with Rockler plate (aluminium) $59.00. Good choice. Laminated table, top and bottom. One inch of MDF. Enough beef to remove any vibrations.
One down side, my PC 690 fixed base handles would not clear the hole. Had to remove to fit it.
Used on some molding work this p.m. Happy as a clam!!
Did one years ago with plastic insert. To much flex. Was not happy with it. Had quick garage sale and got rid of it.
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