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I've always done hand held routing and very little table work, mostly because I lacked a table. I finally am ready to get a dedicated table setup, and I have some choices to make that I'd like to get your advice.

I have a PC 690 that I have purchased years ago but never used, and I'm thinking about pairing it with a Jessem Rout-R-Lift II, since it's really reasonably priced at $120. However, I just read up on the Triton 2-1/4hp, and at $220 bucks it seems like a great setup, given that I can easily sell the PC690 for $100.

So given that it is even money, which option do you think is a better table setup? Obviously the Triton will have more power. The Jessem lift also has an odd size plate and so I'd either have to build the top, or buy their top for $100. Whereas I figure it's easy to either build my own or buy any top for the Triton.

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Using a 1 3/4hp router in a table seems a little "lite" to me, but it really depends on what you want to do on the table. Separately, there's the question of parts and repair availability. I'm unfamiliar with the service availability for Triton here in the U.S.

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Hi Wiliam

You don't need a tank of a router for most jobs on the router table, how about you sale off the PC and get a router with the lift built in to it...for about the same price you will get from your PC690..

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=1293380806767

Many will say you need a tank router (3hp) but how many times will you use the BIG router bits to make cabinets in your life time..and you can get Vert.bits that will do the job easy if you want to make some cabinet doors on your standard router table.
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Hi all:

I've always done hand held routing and very little table work, mostly because I lacked a table. I finally am ready to get a dedicated table setup, and I have some choices to make that I'd like to get your advice.

I have a PC 690 that I have purchased years ago but never used, and I'm thinking about pairing it with a Jessem Rout-R-Lift II, since it's really reasonably priced at $120. However, I just read up on the Triton 2-1/4hp, and at $220 bucks it seems like a great setup, given that I can easily sell the PC690 for $100.

So given that it is even money, which option do you think is a better table setup? Obviously the Triton will have more power. The Jessem lift also has an odd size plate and so I'd either have to build the top, or buy their top for $100. Whereas I figure it's easy to either build my own or buy any top for the Triton.

Any advice very appreciated!



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Hi Wiliam,
Out of the two you are considering the Triton would be better suited for table use. I have both of these routers (PC690 1-3/4hp, Triton 2-1/4hp, Triton 3-1/4hp) & have used them in tables. Even the PC690 will work for everything but the larger bits. The Triton is more capable of handling more routing scenarios, even if you get into making some raised panel doors. For some operations you just need the extra torque of the bigger router.

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I've got the bigger Triton... It's awesome! The above table crank, automatic lock, smooth as silk... I think it's the way to go. I've heard the smaller Triton is good too. I'd rather have too much power than not enough... kinda like a widow complaining her husband had too much life insurance. But that's just me.
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll go with the Triton. I frankly still don't understand why either the small or large Triton don't get more love, given that it costs the same as a good lift.
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll go with the Triton. I frankly still don't understand why either the small or large Triton don't get more love, given that it costs the same as a good lift.
A year or two ago, IIRC, there was discussion about Triton being in financial trouble. Plus, I don't think their distribution and marketing in the U.S. is as strong as some other brands.

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A year or two ago, IIRC, there was discussion about Triton being in financial trouble. Plus, I don't think their distribution and marketing in the U.S. is as strong as some other brands.
Probably not. But they do seem to be a generation ahead of the router for table use. $400 for a router lift, that's small batch CNC'ed by a third party to compensate for the lack of design for table use, just doesn't make much economic sense, when you can just built it in with the router at probably tens of dollars. Even at $119 Jessem's low end lift is a lot of money, when you consider that you can build an entire router with electronics, motor, plunge mechanism and all the other parts, and retail it at $220.

Didn't DeWalt buy some router manufacturer for their current line of routers? If Triton fails, I wouldn't be surprised if someone buys them up just to catch up.
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DeWalt bought the German ELU company some years ago and several current DeWalt models are bean counter 'improved' versions of the original ELU models.

Triton have been bought up by some financial operation and are gradually getting back into the game. Their products have generally had a good name, marred only by uncertainty about spares availability during certain periods. Interestingly, the smaller Triton router is also offered by CMT, whose reputation is excellent and who wouldn't have adopted it and offered it under their own name if there was anything wrong with it.

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DeWalt bought the German ELU company some years ago and several current DeWalt models are bean counter 'improved' versions of the original ELU models.

Triton have been bought up by some financial operation and are gradually getting back into the game. Their products have generally had a good name, marred only by uncertainty about spares availability during certain periods. Interestingly, the smaller Triton router is also offered by CMT, whose reputation is excellent and who wouldn't have adopted it and offered it under their own name if there was anything wrong with it.

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I agree, Peter.

The original Triton was an Australian company, owned by GMC Worldwide Pty Ltd that went into bankruptcy and was bough out by a Swiss firm.

The trade marks, patents etc were sold to a swiss company, who are probably selling the Triton (re-badged) to CMT.

The spare parts stock and all patents, intellectual property has been bought by a Swiss company, Powerbox AG.

From other forums, the Trition TRC001 and the smaller Triton are back on the market in the US.

The TRC001 now has the through-table-height adjuster similar to the smaller one.

I do know that new stock of CMT AND Triton routers have appeared in Europe and the US.

The Triton products are well designed and engineered. They are made in a ISO rated factory in Taiwan.

Now the Swiss firm has re-entered the market, I doubt there will be any problem with spare parts, warranty etc.

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