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I've defined 5 fences so far:

1. "L" fence
2. Pat Warner's Curtain Fence
3. Mike Wingate's Vacuum mount fence
4. bar fence
5. High fence

Am I missing any?

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My favorite and the one I use 99% of the time:

The pivoting fence!

Home made:

http://www.tunelab-world.com/routerscale.pdf

Or the very nice CMT(which at times goes for less than 1/2 the price at this link):

http://www.mikestools.com/999-501-10...ing-Fence.aspx

And info on this forum already:

http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...vot-fence.html


I learned the Pivoting fence method from Marc Sommerfeld years ago(15 maybe?) and still feel it is the best way to go for most operations(Especially for bits with a bearing). In the router forum link I believe they talk about it.

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...The pivoting fence!
Thanks Dovetail:

I've added:

6. Pivot Fence - as per your recommendation

7. Split Fence - what most manufacturers offer

8. Parallel Fence - I can't remember where I saw it but it mounts in a track and is setup parallel to the main fence.

Is a mitre gauge a fence or a fixture?

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"Is a mitre gauge a fence or a fixture?"

As used on a router table, I think it would be an axially-sliding fence.

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Yeah, but a miter gauge is a fixture, especially if you clamp the workpiece to it.

A holding device or "tool cutter path guide" that moves through the stationary tool = Fixture.

A holding device or "tool cutter path guide" where the tool or work(material) moves through the stationary guide = Jig

So a fence is a type of jig.

A miter gauge is a fixture.

There are some exceptions of course.

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"fence" The most common one of all is the bearing on many router bits..


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Yeah, but a miter gauge is a fixture, especially if you clamp the workpiece to it.
Interesting argument. However, Ralph's "axially-sliding fence" is also an interesting argument. My thinking is in tune with your definition but I'm open to arguments in support of Ralph's position.

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A holding device or "tool cutter path guide" that moves through the stationary tool = Fixture.

A holding device or "tool cutter path guide" where the tool or work(material) moves through the stationary guide = Jig

So a fence is a type of jig.

A miter gauge is a fixture.

There are some exceptions of course.
My shortened version: a jig guides, a fixture glides and a method holds the tool. That said, I'd be interested in hearing some of the "exceptions."

Now, your "fence is a type of jig" perhaps so, but in that case I would consider it a "class" of jig all on its own. Then what do we call "jigs?"

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"fence" The most common one of all is the bearing on many router bits..


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Valid comment but then, what is the guide post (safety guide pin) and template guides? Are they jigs (jigs guide) or elements on their own? Perhaps a class of jig on their own, perhaps like fences = jigs?

An addenda to this is the question, is a fence unique to a table? For example, an edge guide or a bearinged bit used in a hand held router -- is it a fence or a jig?

In a vertical table, is the horizontal table a fence, a jig?

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Break it down to its simplest form.

Jigs stay still. Fixtures move.

Ie, guide pin, a type of jig.
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Hi

This kind of stuff can drive you nuts..jigs,fixtures, what every..


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