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I'm making good progress with my router table : mounting plate recess cut perfectly, T-tracks for fence installed (almost perfectly) and fence constructed. NOw I just need some clever suggestions to solve the next problem : how to support the hinging router table, which is attached to the side of my work bench.

Please consult the attached diagram. Essentially what I'm looking to do, is to design and build some kind of strut system that will support the RT in it's horizontal position. When not in use, the RT will hang down in the vertical position (B), without router installed - I only have one router at present. I've seen solutions similar where two triangular 'doors' (pretty much occupying the space denoted by 'A' on the diagram) are hinged off the work bench leg, and hinge out to provide support under the RT along its entire underside. The setup of my RT in relation to the position of it on the workbench, means that that system won't work.

So I've figured that I need two struts as depicted - and that in order for the strut to hinge up against the workbench leg (A), it will need to somehow slide down in a telescopic fashion. I assume there are accepted ways of doing this (a sliding, yet lockable joint) but I don't know them. Clearly I'll never need to alter the length of the strut when locked - however it does need to be able to be disassembled, and must be secure, as it supports the RT. Maybe a dowel/hole setup combined with a slot and bolt/wingnut - installed in the section where the two red struts overlap??

Any suggestions, or alternatives, would be greatly appreciated!

Matthew

PS - I could have a completely removable strut however like the security of having it firmly attached - one end via a hinge, the other via...to be decided - probably a bolt through a block (the black square) and the strut itself?
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Thinking out of the box here...instead of struts as shown, make a pull-out shelf with full-extension slides that will attach to the bottom of the workbench. You would swing up the router table (still hinged as you show it) and pull out the shelf, then lower the table onto the shelf. T-nuts and bolts could provide adjustable feet between the table and shelf. When done, lift slightly on the router table and push the shelf back in, then lower the router table. Accuride (or similar) full-extension slides have a 100-pound capacity, so they'll be plenty strong enough.

Do you have an old camera tripod? take off two of the legs and attach them to the bottom of the router table. The tips of the legs can fit into mating sockets on the workbench, and you can adjust the level of the router table using the extension tubes of the tripod legs.

Third idea from my caffeine-deprived brain: put a trestle table-type leg on the forward edge of the router table, and have it hinged like the router table so that it folds under the table when stored. Have slots in the legs for a sliding extension that will drop down to the ground (wing nuts and carriage bolts should do).
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You could use extention poles like the painters use.

Mr. Longarm 3 - 6 ft. Adjustable Extension Pole - 0936P at The Home Depot
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It's not an elegant way, but it sure is strong, reliableand inexpensive. I once faced a similar problem and ended up solving it with some lengths of galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, and a couple of floor flanges mounted to the underside of the table. The pipe legs can be screwed into the flanges by hand to hold the table up, or removed and stored when the table needs to be folded. I put a pair of crutch tips on the bottom ends of mine to protect the floor.

A second way. You could make a pair of wooden legs and hinge them toward each other if one was mounted just slightly back from the other. They would then fold and rest alongside each other. Nothing says that both have to be mounted in the very front corners of the table. For this method I would recommend the following type hinges. They latch in place in both the set up and folded positions. Others probably sell the same hinges. I just found this link to show what I mean.

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Hi Matt

The one in your PDF file will work just fine..you can buy tons of hardware but the simple ones always work the best.. .. go for it..



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I'm making good progress with my router table : mounting plate recess cut perfectly, T-tracks for fence installed (almost perfectly) and fence constructed. NOw I just need some clever suggestions to solve the next problem : how to support the hinging router table, which is attached to the side of my work bench.

Please consult the attached diagram. Essentially what I'm looking to do, is to design and build some kind of strut system that will support the RT in it's horizontal position. When not in use, the RT will hang down in the vertical position (B), without router installed - I only have one router at present. I've seen solutions similar where two triangular 'doors' (pretty much occupying the space denoted by 'A' on the diagram) are hinged off the work bench leg, and hinge out to provide support under the RT along its entire underside. The setup of my RT in relation to the position of it on the workbench, means that that system won't work.

So I've figured that I need two struts as depicted - and that in order for the strut to hinge up against the workbench leg (A), it will need to somehow slide down in a telescopic fashion. I assume there are accepted ways of doing this (a sliding, yet lockable joint) but I don't know them. Clearly I'll never need to alter the length of the strut when locked - however it does need to be able to be disassembled, and must be secure, as it supports the RT. Maybe a dowel/hole setup combined with a slot and bolt/wingnut - installed in the section where the two red struts overlap??

Any suggestions, or alternatives, would be greatly appreciated!

Matthew

PS - I could have a completely removable strut however like the security of having it firmly attached - one end via a hinge, the other via...to be decided - probably a bolt through a block (the black square) and the strut itself?



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I would suggest support legs that don't rely on any sort of friction fit to support the weight. The typical amateur camera tripod, for example, is only rated for a few pounds, and could easily slip - usually at just the wrong time, if Murphy's law comes into play.

Loose-pin hinges could be used to attach full-length legs (pull the pin to remove the leg) to the RT top. A stretcher between the legs could add more stability. Wedged through mortises/tenons on the stretcher might be nice, too. Attach the wedges to the legs with a length of small chain, so they don't get lost.

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Thanks to all for all the thoughtful responses.

I'd like to build the struts/supports - and for me that means wood. The RT (with plate and fence) weighs in at 16kg (35lb) and then add my 6kg router (13lb) so I'm looking at supporting close to 50lb - plus whatever pressure I exert while working on the RT. So the struts have to be solid - I certainly don't want it collapsing while I'm using it - that would be super dangerous.

I like Ralph's idea (full length struts, completely removable via loose-pin hinges) - a simple yet robust solution. When you say stretcher - do you mean diagonal bracing - or two pieces of bracing connecting the two struts, mounted at 90° to each strut? That would certainly be stiffer than two independent struts. I guess it just requires 4 flange blocks (8 "sides", 4 bases), some pins (I guess wooden dowel would be fine if thick enough - 12mm?) and the struts themselves. Like depicted as attached?

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Thinking out of the box here...instead of struts as shown, make a pull-out shelf with full-extension slides that will attach to the bottom of the workbench. You would swing up the router table (still hinged as you show it) and pull out the shelf, then lower the table onto the shelf.
Why not put the RT on the slides? Pull it out, slap in the router and insert, and away you go.

If you want struts, do what I did with my TS outfeed table. I used one side of a walker. We have a multitude of them at the Senior Center, (yes, I am a member) and we were throwing a bunch of them out.
I took one home and cut it apart. The legs are adjustable for length.

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Folding brackets take little space and are very strong and easy to install.
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Hi Gav

They look interesting - are they made entirely of wood? Have you made such a bracket?
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