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Hello My name is Mike, I Live in SE Pennsylvania, I am a Journeyman Carpenter who has been out of the trade for some 20 yrs, so i have a background working with wood many years ago but you never forget it all,,, im going to build a router table and I have a few questions,
1. Table insert,, im going to go with phenolic, looking at a roussou 3509 but read
that is is "Crowned" and some stated it will affect the ability to do accurate
mortise and tenon work. And Im going to be making tables and cabinets,
so that may be an issue,
also do the inserts usually come with templates to make accurate inlay cuts
for the insert itself, and if not how diffiicult is the setup,
some of the inserts come with leveling screws,magents, and snugging clips

ive read some of the posts on the subject just need some more imput
before i make my final decisions....
2. Router
I have a 30yr old Craftsman and it has been used minimally in the past,
should be getting plenty of work now, what would be recomendations for a
new router if i should decide to replace the old one prices would be a
consideration,
Also building a Wood strip canoe this spring, that should be a neat project,

any feedback is appreciated
Thanks
Mike
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Hi Mike, welcome to the LJ Forum. Is your old router a 1/2" collet or 1/4" , the newer 1/2" ones have better power for the heavy cutting you might be looking at doing. The Woodcraft stores have the Triton Routers on sale sale right now for a short time and they would be great for table use and the prices are right at the moment. They may be sold out at the store but you can order online or get a rain chaeck at the store for them. I have a couple of Craftsman routers my self one old and one new digital readout model.
Here is the link to thier site for the Triton Routers.

Triton Plunge Routers

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Hi Mike,
I made do for many years with a big Hitachi mounted upside down on the extension table of my table saw (50" fence) . I simply drilled a hole big enuf for my panel raising bit. The extension table was made of oak framework (ribbing) with 1/4" MDF on top. It actually worked VERY well, but changing bits was a pain in the butt. So whatever you end up buying/making, make sure you can do above the table bit changes, and height adjustment
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Howdy, Mike.

I have no experience with the Roussou 3509, but my guess would be that the crown is intended to flatten out under the weight of the router. (Why would anyone design a plate doomed to make inaccurate cuts, or worse, be dangerous?)

If you plan to make rail/stile cabinet doors, along with raised panels, consider a new 3 1/4HP router, possibly with a lift, for the table. Keep your old Craftsman for hand-held work. Not every routing job is appropriate for the table. In fact, you may be better off deciding on the router first, and then look at plates and lifts that are appropriate for the router. It's likely that you'll end up with several routers, anyway, and depending on which system you go with for the table, it may not be convenient to remove the router motor for hand-held tasks.

FWIW, I use a PC 7518 in a BenchDog Pro lift in the table, and a pair of PC 690-series routers for hand-held work, along with 4 or 5 others that have accumulated over the years.

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Thanks Men, I was at HD and picked up the display model of a Ridgid R2900 combo plunge and stationary for, get this, $58.50 they werent going to carry that model anymore and i could not resist, after much thought i went with the Roussou 3509 also picked up 36" miter track,and one 2' t track ,some plastic edge moulding and a Ridgid bushing set, soon ill pick up a 3/4 Finished plywood and build my table 24"x36". playing with where to locate the plate, probably center 12" so even if i have the 3" bearing fence all the way back i could still get 9' inch's of material between the fence and cutter, at this point i dont see why i would need more room than that,,,,,, any ideas and how about left to right is central location optimal, all these ques may seem elementary but dont forget new at this ,,,,,
Thanks agian for the feedback men
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I have no experience with the Roussou 3509, but my guess would be that the crown is intended to flatten out under the weight of the router. (Why would anyone design a plate doomed to make inaccurate cuts, or worse, be dangerous?)
The Rousseau plate is designed to guarantee the depth of cut to be the same from start to finish. It does not flatten out with router weight.
I have one in my table, and like it.

I mounted my plate to the left of center. That way, I have room to mount my Incra jig on the right.

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Hello, sounds like a great deal on the Ridgid router. I have the Ridgid palm router for small jobs and it is pretty good so far. Have a Porter Cable, 1 3/4 hp on my table and it seems great so far, I am in the process of building a cabinet type table for mine also. I have an aluminum plate and it does not sag at all yet,although it took about 40 minutes to make flush with table but am impressed so far. Good luck.

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Did you get the template for the router plate? My 2 cents is get the template. Sounds like you will have a nice set up!

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