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Hopefully some one can help or has experienced the same problem. Three weeks ago I purchased the Kreg PRS1040 Precision Router Table System from an online retailer. While the base is strong and sturdy with self squaring bolts, the top and fence leave a lot to be desired. The extruded aluminum fence when put on top of the table has a slight wobble. I contacted the retailer who basically said- not their problem, contact the factory. The factory sent another fence which had the same wobble. So what is it now - the table. The factory, while very accomodating - decided to send another table top. Same problem. I am waiting for fence #3 at this point. While there is only a slight wobble - slightly more than 1/16 from end to end, I rely on my equipment to be precise. Has anyone experienced a similar proble with this setup? I havent even got to the stage of tring to mount anything in it yet.
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I'm not happy with my fence either. I love the tables... I have three of them. I have to shim the fence with paper from the back to get it perpendicular to the table. The little plastic adjustable locking screws constantly vibrate off. The fence has a bow in it as well. I wouldn't buy it again. I have it set up on one table to do one thing so I never have to adjust it. They need to revamp it.

I made the fence for my recent table build and also bought the new Woodpecker's RF3. Whole other animal. Extremely heavy duty extrusion, straight as an arrow.

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Thanks for the input - I just cant accept it as it is. Replacing my Rockler table/fence setup for this has sent me backwards. I liken it to my Delta Unisaw - when I set my fence on there - there is no worry that I am going to get an imperfect cut. Under typical edge routing it will not be not be as noticeable but when doing door stiles and rails it could leave a larger gap from front to back. I just dont think Im going to be satisfied wit this equipment. On a side note - I was under the impression that these were manufactured in the US - the boxes all said Taiwan. Not surprised.
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Every manufacturer is subject to quality problems. The important thing is that they stand behind their products and make it right. It sounds to me like Kreg is doing whatever it takes. Since most routers and accessories are manufactured in China or Taiwan it comes down to quality control, most do a great job. If your problem is not resolved return the table or contact me for assistance. I have helped several forum members resolve problems. You have 59K forum friends to back you up when dealing with manufacturers and they listen.

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I was lookin at the kreg full size table but now am thinking ,, please let us know how it turns out

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When you say "wobble" what do you mean?

With both sides of the fence locked down there should be no movement in the fence at all.

Unlike a tablesaw fence that depends on the locked T to hold the fence rigid, the Kreg setup is a positioner and is meant to be locked down on both ends before feeding your stock.

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By wobble - I mean that if you set the extruded aluminum piece on the table as it will sit with no other pieces attached, while grabbing the top of the extruded aluminum - I am able to rock the fence back and forth -side to side. If it an the table were perfectly flat - there would be no movement. I also set the aluminum fence on my granite counter top and got the same side to side rocking motion.
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Jeff and Warren, when I started on the forums I had just built a very decent table from the plans in ShopNotes #1. You can see this table design on the PBS show: "Woodsmith shop." The thing that got me interested in routing was the Router Workshop show. Watching Bob and Rick build many interesting projects with ease inspired me. The main theme of the show was to "Keep it Simple". Bob maintained that complex fences with special attachments, T tracks and the like actually slowed down the routing process. Rick talked me into trying the Router Workshop methods and I would never switch back. The reason is simple; I would rather spend my time routing than on set ups. Their system allows jobs like making box joints to set up quick and accurate. Proof that their designs work are shown by the copies marketed by Woodpeckers, Peachtree and Rockler. When I became Senior Moderator I felt obligated to try as many routers and tables as possible so I could provide first hand information about them to forum members. To this day I have not seen a table that surpasses the quality of the Router Workshop table. The design seems very spartan at first look but this table will handle every routing job I can imagine. Lightweight but very sturdy, unlimited fence clamping possibilities and on board bit storage. The exclusive Vac-u-plate system which captures the majority of sawdust and dross with no hose above the table to fight with. All this for under $200. To me this is real value for your money. Plans are available if you want to build your own version. I highly recommend this table and many forum members agree. Give it some consideration.

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By wobble - I mean that if you set the extruded aluminum piece on the table as it will sit with no other pieces attached, while grabbing the top of the extruded aluminum - I am able to rock the fence back and forth -side to side. If it an the table were perfectly flat - there would be no movement. I also set the aluminum fence on my granite counter top and got the same side to side rocking motion.
I see, that would suggest a twisted and or bowed extrusion.

Just for kicks I took my rig apart and did the same test on my cast iron tablesaw top and did not get your wobble.
I use a 38" Veritas straight edge, an engineers square and a Woodpeckers saw gauge to set up my gear.

Straight edge along the front face (without the mdf fences) of my Kreg fence is spot on. Square to table with the mdf faces installed did require brass shims under two screws at the fence bracket, .35mm worth (which I had forgotten about doing on initial setup). Alignment to miter track is within .003" along the locked down fence at any position. The little "slop" screw glides on the T at the guide rail are fine, have yet to vibrate loose and show very little wear.

I don't know the manufacture date on mine but I picked it up in the middle of July of '08. Perhaps some quality control issues or manufacturing fubars have cropped up between then and now.

If newer fences are out of spec, I would guess that Kreg would like to know about it.
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Thanks for all the input. I have used my Rockler table for 6 years and have had no problems at all and have completed many detailed projects. My neighbor got a new router lift and I figured that I should get one too, so I decided to get a new table as well. The new fence is due on Wednesday so hopefully it is flat and I can get on with the installation of the lift and router. Needless to say - my neighbor is having a lot of laughs over this.
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