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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-18-2011, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
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I'm gathering information on building a router table from New Yankee plans and was conflicted as to how much, in your opinion, is the least horse power in router motors to use in the table to be able to rout raised panels, etc. using the large diameter bits? Some of my friends say as little as 2 to 2 1/4 HP but others advise no less than 3Hp. I realize that bigger is better, however I have a 2 1/4 motor but was wondering that if I used it would I quickly become disenchanted with its performance and start looking for bigger, meaning refitting and more money spent? Thxs to all. I read posts often but this my first post.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-18-2011, 08:17 AM
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Hi

The 2 or the 2 1/4 HP will do a fine job , it's item that you will not do all the time if you do I would say the big tank routers (3 1/4 HP ) is the way to go..
Below you will see a small trim router can and will do the job just fine. it's not the size of the router it's how you use it...and the bits you will use with it.

http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...-4-router.html


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Hey Guys,
I'm gathering information on building a router table from New Yankee plans and was conflicted as to how much, in your opinion, is the least horse power in router motors to use in the table to be able to rout raised panels, etc. using the large diameter bits? Some of my friends say as little as 2 to 2 1/4 HP but others advise no less than 3Hp. I realize that bigger is better, however I have a 2 1/4 motor but was wondering that if I used it would I quickly become disenchanted with its performance and start looking for bigger, meaning refitting and more money spent? Thxs to all. I read posts often but this my first post.



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I agree with Bob, you can most likely make any size router work using proper technique within the limitations of the router.

My first table system replaced an old Craftsman shaper that couldn't handle large diameter bits (spindle opening was too small, cast iron) and was stuck using vertical panel raisers.

Wanting to spin the big horizontal bits with impunity, I bolted up my big Porter Cable plunger to the first table and have stuck with the 3-1/4 hp guys since.

I would imagine that a 2-1/4 motor would be fine unless you're into production mode where size does matter and an extra pass or two costs money.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-18-2011, 09:03 AM
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Felton, one of our forum members (Joe) was selling what you think is Norm's design 6 months before Norm built it. The design is actually from Fine Woodworking Magazine. If you have researched the cost of the material to build one of these tables you may be surprised to learn that you can buy one for about $300 US. You should take a look at Joe's site by clicking here: Best router table

There are two schools of thought on how to go about routing. One is "whistles and bells" with lots of T tracks, micro adjusters, expensive add ons like power lifts and a furniture grade router table. The other is the "Keep it simple" methods taught by Bob and Rick Rosendahl of the Router Workshop. If you have browsed sites like Rockler, Woodcraft and MLCS you have seen copies of Bob's ideas and jigs. Both ways work and there is no wrong way to go about it; it is a matter of personal choice. I prefer the "Keep it simple" way; I would rather spend my money on materials for projects. You should give some thought on what your goal is and how best to go about it.

Everyone has an opinion on which tool you should purchase and why. The simple truth of the matter is most name brand routers have similar features and performance. Horsepower ratings are a shell game and not the important part of your buying decision. I suggest that having a good quality 2-1/4 hp industrial grade router like the Bosch 1617 will serve your needs well. For working with large diameter bits like panel raising bits speed control is essential. For free hand routing the soft start feature is great. For a router dedicated to table use start up torque is not a factor; a better option is to go with a fixed speed/simple switch version and an external speed controller. Soft start/speed control modules are the part of a router most likely to fail. Once this happens many people choose to by pass the internal modual and go with an external controller because of replacement cost. Just because a router has a 3-1/4 hp rating does not guarantee you can use panel raising bits with it. Some models have limited base opening sizes and that is an important detail to check before buying. Depth of cut is important too. It can mean the difference between using a collet extension or not to be able to complete a job. Based on all these factors here is my suggestion for a dedicated table router: The Bosch 1619EVS 3-1/4 hp plunge router with the springs removed. It has the largest opening, depth of cut and a built in soft start/speed control. If you want a combo kit which will use the same motor in a fixed base for table work and in a plunge base for free hand work the Bosch MR23EVSK 2.3 hp router. It has a full 3" plunge depth, large opening, soft start/speed control and a trigger switch on the handle. I have been so pleased with the performance of my pair of Bosch 1617's that I recently bought the "23" for it's added features. Food for thought.

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I have a Bosch 1617 2.25 router in my table full time, and have used it for raised panels on several occasions. Put the router on its slowest speed and take several passes. As bob said, if you are going to do A LOT of raised panels, you may want to consider the bigger router, but if it is occasional, a 2hp will work well for you.
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Thanks Mike. That's lots of information but I think it settles a lot of questions for me. Your knowledge is invaluable, as well as other who post to questions here. Thxs. Felton
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Bob,Tom and Mark are correct 2.25 will for fine. As long as you limit the use, using 3"+ bits and reduce the speed to 16,000 RPMs
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Thanks to all who answered. Seems I got the answers that I needed. As usual and I've come to expect--GREAT ADVICE.
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