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I picked up a Freud router at a garage sale, along with a router table top. The fence is missing a guard, and possibly a center zero clearance piece of nylon/plastic(?).

The router table is orange phenolic, as is the fence. The fence has a dust port, and two white plastic faces that can be adjusted closer/further from the bit. Those pieces have a reverse angle that appears to allow fitting a zero clearance piece of plastic, or a piece that could hold a safety guard. Additionally, the top does not have a plate - it has a round hole with a black insert to allow either large or small bits. The router attaches to the bottom of the table top with three flat head machine screws that are tightened from the top

Any ideas on who manufactured this top? I would like to get the 'missing' piece for safety and zero clearance work.

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I picked up a Freud router at a garage sale, along with a router table top. The fence is missing a guard, and possibly a center zero clearance piece of nylon/plastic(?).

The router table is orange phenolic, as is the fence. The fence has a dust port, and two white plastic faces that can be adjusted closer/further from the bit. Those pieces have a reverse angle that appears to allow fitting a zero clearance piece of plastic, or a piece that could hold a safety guard. Additionally, the top does not have a plate - it has a round hole with a black insert to allow either large or small bits. The router attaches to the bottom of the table top with three flat head machine screws that are tightened from the top

Any ideas on who manufactured this top? I would like to get the 'missing' piece for safety and zero clearance work.

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Hi Milt - sounds like it might be a CMT table. There are a couple of members here that have one, maybe weigh in later. A pic would be helpful.

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Milt, if you email me a photo of the table I will post it for you. I can't think of a table like this. Left click on my name and select send Email.

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Hi Milt

It's the old ver. of the CMT table, the orange phenolic is a dead give away, most of the older ones didn't have a plate just the holes to bolt the router up..

The fence is
What Is UHMW?
(Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene)
UHMW Plastic Sheets and Strips

this one is almost the same Supreme Router Table Fence
Router Table Fence

The one below is one with the drop plate in place but almost the same thing,,
I will say the one without the plate is a better setup..
but the newer type fence is better...a place to hook on feather board items and the bit guard..and stop blocks..and you can flip it around and use the backside of the table top,for bigger items.

Amazon.com: CMT 999.500.02 Industrio Router Table System with Precision Fence, Phenolic Insert, Cabinet, Zero Clearance Inserts, Centering Tool and Insert Plate with 2 Aluminum Rings: Home Improvement

You can buy the bit guard from Rockler for a song..

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I picked up a Freud router at a garage sale, along with a router table top. The fence is missing a guard, and possibly a center zero clearance piece of nylon/plastic(?).

The router table is orange phenolic, as is the fence. The fence has a dust port, and two white plastic faces that can be adjusted closer/further from the bit. Those pieces have a reverse angle that appears to allow fitting a zero clearance piece of plastic, or a piece that could hold a safety guard. Additionally, the top does not have a plate - it has a round hole with a black insert to allow either large or small bits. The router attaches to the bottom of the table top with three flat head machine screws that are tightened from the top

Any ideas on who manufactured this top? I would like to get the 'missing' piece for safety and zero clearance work.

Thanks
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It is strange that there is not a single image of this table on the web. I did find this drilling diagram for the CMT pivoting fence, does it look like a match?
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It is strange that there is not a single image of this table on the web. I did find this drilling diagram for the CMT pivoting fence, does it look like a match?
There is a lot of info on the original cmt sommerfeld table on John Lucas's old woodshopdemos website.

Project - "Mounting the Router in the Table" ***************************************** Page 4
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Thanks Greg! John needs someone to link his site to search engines. Is this the table Milt?

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Hi Mike

John just needs to update his HTML code so the
search engines can find him..no tag codes in place..
But I don't think he wants to..

Just a note +++ I had John's web site in my Signature for a long time but I got some flack from him so I dropped it..

It looks like he now selling a DVD for the demo's,from
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...ation-DVD.aspx
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http://woodworkersedge.com/
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/
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http://legacy.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
http://www.eaglelakewoodworking.com/videos.htm

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The PDF file allows you to search for any subject, product or even<br>
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It is available now for $19.95 - US only at <a href="http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2083218/34545/WoodShopDemoscom-Compilation-DVD.aspx" target="_blank">Woodcraft.com</a>.</h3>

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John passed away in Feb of 2010 and his wife kept the site going to honor his memory.

He compiled a lot of good information and product reviews over the years.

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I thank all of you for the information. I think you nailed the source of the 'unknown' table.

Before I found Router Forum, I did see a reference to John Lucas. I could not load page four from John Lucas' webpage. Google tells me that the page no longer exists - but does show the preview of the page. The table top on page four in the preview looks identical.

The link gregw posted is the exact table top and the John Lucas page I couldn't get before. Thanks.

The local Rockler store is about 30 miles away - I have a few stocking stuffers from them on my wish list, but thanks to bobj3 below I have another reason to make the drive.

I just signed up for Router Forums and this was my first post (which is why there is no picture, I need to post more). I am very impressed with the responses and look forward to staying in touch. After the holidays are over I am going to start on a the router cabinet.

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