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GREETINGS ALL !!!

I am BRAND SPANKIN' NEW to Router Forums and the world of routers . . . having just been referred by a buddy from another Message Board dedicated to DIY Drummaking (as in the musical instrument)

I know, I know . . . yet another "I'm brand new here with an uber newbie question" thread. (I didn't want to hijack or derail a fellow newbie's thread - as I think our particular questions are just different enough to warrant a separate question thread.

So, I apologize ahead of time for the various "newbie-isms" I will undoubtedly write as I ask my questions ... and I most sincerely appreciate your patience and guidance.


Okay, so here we go . . . .

In a nutshell . . . .
I am preparing to purchase my first router (having only ever before used a friend's router set up (briefly) to cut bearing edges on a couple of raw drum shells). I'm both very excited and equally intimidated to get started.

Aside from the router selection process itself, the one element that has intimidated me (because I haven't really ever built something from scratch before - though I have always wanted to) is either building or purchasing a router table itself.

ACTUALLY, I'm not even looking for/wanting a full blown router table with all of the bells-and-whistles. The only elements I really want and need is . . . .
- a smooth flat worktable surface
- a hole in the table underwhich the router will be mounted


(hope that makes sense)

Within a different recent discussion thread/topic, Moderator "Mike" mentioned a "Router Workshop Table." I went to the Router Workshop website, but could not find any table(s) for purchase.


Ideally, I would like a decently sturdy workbench type setup dedicated solely to/for the router - with/on which I will be performing my drum shell edging. As I mentioned, I've never really built anything from scratch before - though the steps the person in that discussion took seem relatively basic (as soon as I learn how to drill counter-sink holes, of course).


Anyway . . . I'm very glad to have been referred to this Community and I'm looking forward to absorbing and learning from the thoughts, advice and guidance from you seasoned pros.





Looking forward to hearing from you as to my efforts above.


TOM
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Hi Tom

Sounds like you may be a bit low on tools so I will suggest you get the table below
put some bolts and nuts in place and you are set..once you put a router in the table.. for the router I will suggest the one below for that, 216.oo bucks and you are set to run..one base for the table and one for the hand jobs..

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GREETINGS ALL !!!

I am BRAND SPANKIN' NEW to Router Forums and the world of routers . . . having just been referred by a buddy from another Message Board dedicated to DIY Drummaking (as in the musical instrument)

I know, I know . . . yet another "I'm brand new here with an uber newbie question" thread. (I didn't want to hijack or derail a fellow newbie's thread - as I think our particular questions are just different enough to warrant a separate question thread.

So, I apologize ahead of time for the various "newbie-isms" I will undoubtedly write as I ask my questions ... and I most sincerely appreciate your patience and guidance.


Okay, so here we go . . . .

In a nutshell . . . .
I am preparing to purchase my first router (having only ever before used a friend's router set up (briefly) to cut bearing edges on a couple of raw drum shells). I'm both very excited and equally intimidated to get started.

Aside from the router selection process itself, the one element that has intimidated me (because I haven't really ever built something from scratch before - though I have always wanted to) is either building or purchasing a router table itself.

ACTUALLY, I'm not even looking for/wanting a full blown router table with all of the bells-and-whistles. The only elements I really want and need is . . . .
- a smooth flat worktable surface
- a hole in the table underwhich the router will be mounted


(hope that makes sense)

Within a different recent discussion thread/topic, Moderator "Mike" mentioned a "Router Workshop Table." I went to the Router Workshop website, but could not find any table(s) for purchase.


Ideally, I would like a decently sturdy workbench type setup dedicated solely to/for the router - with/on which I will be performing my drum shell edging. As I mentioned, I've never really built anything from scratch before - though the steps the person in that discussion took seem relatively basic (as soon as I learn how to drill counter-sink holes, of course).


Anyway . . . I'm very glad to have been referred to this Community and I'm looking forward to absorbing and learning from the thoughts, advice and guidance from you seasoned pros.





Looking forward to hearing from you as to my efforts above.


TOM



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Welcome, actually all Ya need is a flat surface and a hole in the table for a router. I have a nice table for sale and a router that can go with it if interested send me a private message, I'll make ya a good deal

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Tom, the Grizzly "Presidents special" router table sale BJ suggested is the best deal going. The Craftsman 2 hp combo kit with the fixed and plunge bases on sale for $99 is the value leader; many forum members have this set and are pleased with it. Lowes is selling the Bosch 1617EVSK 2.25 hp combo kit for $179. This is an industrial quality router and my weapon of choice. All the combo kit you see are styled after the Bosch 1617. I have owned a pair of them for over 10 years trouble free. I suggest you visit Lowes and Sears and compare them in your hands. The controls are slightly different and you should choose which ever feels best to you. You need to understand that the cost of the router is the smallest expense; the real cost of routing is the bits and accessories. MLCS offers some good deals on bits but I always suggest the 10 0piece bit set from Woodcraft. These Wood River brand bits are on sale right now for less than $50 and will let you accomplish many different jobs with your router. Spend the time to read the manual with which ever router you choose.(I do) You will want to practice a bit on some inexpensive wood to get a feel for your router.(They all feel different in your hands) We are here to help you with any questions.

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Welcome to the router forum, Tom

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THANK YOU ALL !!!


Might I ask if there are any thoughts/opinions on the Hitachi M12VC 2-1/4 HP Variable Speed Fixed Base router?
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When it was introduced it was the best bargin available; that is no longer true. The combo kit with this router was popular and I do not remember any member complaints about it. Like all the other combo kit routers the design was based on/to compete against the Bosch 1617. The 12VC and 12VS are lighter in weight than most other models. One of the new Craftsman routers can be purchased for $49 and is very similar. Hope this helps you.

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Greetings Tom and welcome to the router forums, we are glad to have you join us.

I have the Craftsman combo,had it one year now and am well pleased with it.

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Well, I'm not going to say that price is no issue - cuz it is . . . but I have been hearing fairly good things about this particular router - both from friends of mine on the DIY Drumbuilding Forum and from most of the online reviews I've been reading - so I thought I would ask here as well.
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Tom, welcome! I'm also a drummer, with some bearing edge experience. If that is your only application, I would follow Bob's & Mike's advice on the Grizzly table (I'll likely pick up one of those soon). As to routers, I'll defer to other members with more experience.

I have a simple table (PorterCable trim router mounted under a table saw with an 1/8 masonite top) which I have used for drum shells for several years. It has served me well, truing and re-edging my Slingerland, Ludwig and Kent kits with a variety of bearing edges. You'll also need a sanding table, flat surface large enough for your largest bass drums, for truing edges.

My current needs (non-drum related) brought me to this forum for some more advanced router advice...great forum, and these guys and gals will give you excellent guidance.

Back to drums, if you're a member at drumforum.org, hook up with JR Frondelli for additional router advice (tables/routers/bits, etc.) specific to drum building/bearing edges. He's one of the foremost experts on the trade and a frequent contributor to Modern Drummer magazine.

Last, take your time, practice on scrap shells, and be safe! We need all of our fingers for our drumming!!!

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