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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-20-2011, 11:07 AM Thread Starter
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First time posting and I have a question/idea for dust collection under (inside) the router table.
I am wandering if a 4" (100mm) PVC pipe with an opening near and behind the router could work? Please see attached photo.
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Hi Steli

I don't see why not but most routers come with or you can buy one, dust pickup tube that can be use in the router table as well..I use the 3 1/4hp Freud router in my table and use the pickup tube for it..and it pickups about 95% of the chips and dust.

But don't forget the router must have room to move up and down and most of the time it's up all the way to to bottom side of the table top...
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Hi guys,
First time posting and I have a question/idea for dust collection under (inside) the router table.
I am wandering if a 4" (100mm) PVC pipe with an opening near and behind the router could work? Please see attached photo.
Thanks
Steli



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I don't see why not but most routers come with or you can buy one, dust pickup tube that can be use in the router table as well..I use the 3 1/4hp Freud router in my table and use the pickup tube for it..and it pickups about 95% of the chips and dust.

But don't forget the router must have room to move up and down and most of the time it's up all the way to to bottom side of the table top...
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Thank you for reply, going to use an old Hitachi m12v with no accessories. IF I understand correct are you refering to the dust extractor attachment that comes with the router? And would that not limit the high of the bit coming up/out?
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Hi

I also have the Hitachi m12v and I do use the dust tube on it from tiime to time, yes it will hold the router back a little bit but the trade off is worth it if I'm milling the nasty MDF stock.
I also use the Router Collet Extension if the dust tube ( dust extractor attachment) is in place.

MLCS Router Collet Extension and Review

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http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=dado%20plaTE

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I also have the Hitachi m12v and I put on the dust tube " dust extractor attachment" on from time to time, it will hold the router back just a bit but if I'm doing MDF the trade off is worth it..but I also use the Router Collet Extension if I have the tube in place.

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I built my router table cabinet with a nearly airtight enclosed area for my router and angled a piece of slick hardboard from top to bottom of the enclosure on the backside of the router. I cut a hole in the side of the cabinet at the base of the hardboard and level with the enclosure floor then installed a coupling to connect a hose from it and a hose from my fence into a "Y" adapter that then connects to my shop vac hose. Another thing I did after reading so many comments about an enclosed router getting too hot was to cut a hole at the top of the enclosure and run a hose to my router from the built in blower on my shop vac to help cool it and keep the router clear of most dust. Before anybody asks the shop vac model I have you can't disable the blower or the vac. They both run at the same time so for my application that works out rather well.

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how hot is the air return from the shop vac? You may be better just letting air into the compartment from a vent hole.
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Stelios:

Be careful to allow enough cooling air to the Router - several members have reported burning-out their routers, when they've been enclosed this way. I have the same setup (with a Porter-Cable) as you, and recently modified it to allow an open bottom.
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Hi

Just my 2 cents

Warm air moving inside the cabinet is better than no air moving at all inside the cabinet, the router will heat up the cabinet in no time anyway plus it will help the dust and the chips move out of the cabinet, most things don't move well in a negative work environment...just like us LOL

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The air from the blower could be classed as warm, but not hot. When I do use my table mounted router it is rare that it runs over 5 minutes continuously to begin with. I see a lot of comments that warn against enclosed cabinets but still one of the most popular cabinets such as Bench Dog sell enclosed cabinets. I based my cabinet on a picture of one I saw in a woodworking magazine before I was aware of the heat generated by the router. I do understand the concern if you run the router for an extended period of time but running it 5 to 10 minutes in an hour shouldn't hurt it.

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