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I bought the Grizzly "Presidents Special" router table that I believe is made by MCLS. Anyway, putting it together, everything went flawlessly. The table seems very flat and everything else is very well made as well....couldn't be happier. But then I got to the insert plate. I drilled the holes for my PC690 and put the whole thing in the table. Then I adjusted the four corners using the adjustment screws till the plate felt flush with the table edge. I never was able to get them all flush. When I would get close, the whole thing would rock. I pulled it off the table and put a straight edge to it and it was not flat at all.

I called Grizzly and they sent me another plate under warranty.
I got the new one and it has the same problem, but not as bad. I can at lest get the edges flush but it still rocks. When I put the weight of the router on it, it pulls it down just enough to stop the rocking. But it is still not flat when I put the straight edge to it. This is my first router table, so maybe this it not that big of deal?

Has anyone else had this issue? I'm trying to figure out whether all of them are that way or I'm just getting defective ones. Should I try getting another one from Grizzly or should I just live with this and look for a better plate?
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I bought the Grizzly "Presidents Special" router table that I believe is made by MCLS. Anyway, putting it together, everything went flawlessly. The table seems very flat and everything else is very well made as well....couldn't be happier. But then I got to the insert plate. I drilled the holes for my PC690 and put the whole thing in the table. Then I adjusted the four corners using the adjustment screws till the plate felt flush with the table edge. I never was able to get them all flush. When I would get close, the whole thing would rock. I pulled it off the table and put a straight edge to it and it was not flat at all.

I called Grizzly and they sent me another plate under warranty.
I got the new one and it has the same problem, but not as bad. I can at lest get the edges flush but it still rocks. When I put the weight of the router on it, it pulls it down just enough to stop the rocking. But it is still not flat when I put the straight edge to it. This is my first router table, so maybe this it not that big of deal?

Has anyone else had this issue? I'm trying to figure out whether all of them are that way or I'm just getting defective ones. Should I try getting another one from Grizzly or should I just live with this and look for a better plate?
Hi Chris - may or may not be a big deal but it still isn't right. I'd call Grizzly back and have them check a plate for flatness before they send it out. I don't think MLCS really makes anything, primarily a marketer so it is possible Grizzly and MLCS get their plates from the same place.

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Christopher, most of these items are made in China. That does not mean the standards are any less. Call Grizzly again and I am sure they will do what it takes to make it right. They have an excellent reputation for customer service. If you have any problems let me know and I will assist you.

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Similar problem here, with the same table from Grizzly...took some tinkering but got it close enough for my work and for the price paid...my top arrived with a few dings in the edge, they've shipped another, will see if the fit on the replacement is any better...overall, their customer service is exceptional in my experience.

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A less than flat insert to me has become a big deal when working toward a higher standard in my work that is why I just rebuilt my router table top and got a new insert. I want to remove one more obstacle, this way I will know what the problem really is---ME. I hate when that happens.

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Christopher, most of these items are made in China. That does not mean the standards are any less. Call Grizzly again and I am sure they will do what it takes to make it right. They have an excellent reputation for customer service. If you have any problems let me know and I will assist you.
Hi Mike.....I understand Woodpeckers Plates are made in the U.S. of A. I can't remember who but isn't there one company that manufactures their plates with an intentional slight convex in the plate?

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Yes Ken, the patented design Rousseau mounting plate is the only plate that is slightly convex. This is the plate most of the others are styled after and still the best selling plate in the world. It is sold in the UK under license by Trend. Norm used one in his first router table on the NYW for 10 years before Rockler sponsored the show and demanded a new table. I have installed many of them and they work great but can interfere with some "Precision" accessories. The Installation template and two piece guide bushing makes the job easy. The mounting kits provide everything you need to center your router on the plate. I used these items on my first router table and had perfect results, quick and easy.
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They sent me another one. So now I have three with the same problem. They put in the order details that whoever ships it out should check that it's flat. But it does appear flat, unless you stick it in the table. The last two that were sent were much better than the original. I'd say the last two are acceptable enough. The last one has a slight concave upward, so maybe the weight of the router will overtime level it out. Where as the other one is actually more flush with the table but has a slight concave downward. Maybe I can send a picture later this week with the straight edge up against it and see if you guys think this will be close enough. It seems to me that a plate should be dead flat. Especially when the table is. Then again, this is my first table, so maybe it won't effect it that much. But I have to say I don't think I'm going to find one of these plates that is perfect. They just are not that great of quality all the way around. And being made of the plastic type material they are, I guess I can't expect much.

In defense of Grizzly, the customer service has been EXCELLENT, and the rest of the table is very quality, especially for the price.

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Christopher, I will call Grizzly and see what I can do. Give me a couple of days to work on this.

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Christopher, I will call Grizzly and see what I can do. Give me a couple of days to work on this.
Wow thanks Mike!
Don't feel like you have to do it. I'll send try to take some pictures and see if you guys think one of these will work. We got snow here in Northern Illinois, so I've been busy doing snow removal all morning.
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