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I made a 2" thick top of birch, which I intend to use as a router top. I might reduce the thickness a bit, but t'll at least be 1,5". I planned to use it like that, with no formica, plastic or anything else on top.

Is that a bad idea? I'm concerned that it might warp over time. I thought about routing a couple of dovetail slots across the boards underneath, and glue some hard wood in there, or even a couple of metal bars, to keep it flat.

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The formica will give you a harder surface and you will not get a wear groove but make sure it is stuck down flat.
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I have a birch top that I keep a coat of paste wax on. It works for me but most people use a formica type cover for the top and bottom and a hard wood around the sides.

My top originally had formica on it. I used 3M's Super 77 adhesive on it and if it was out in the sun or got real hot it would peel right off................ so I eventually peeled it off and put on a coat of wax. I figure that when it warps I'll build another.

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"most people use a formica type cover for the top and bottom"

Right, if you only laminate 1 side, there is a strong potential of that side curling as moisture can access the under side and cause it to swell.

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Has anyone looked under the kitchen /bath room counter tops laminate/formica on one side only and they have water on them all the time.. and they last for years and years.. I have seen some with water marks as big as a bath tub and they still hold fast without any curling..
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Has anyone looked under the kitchen /bath room counter tops laminate/formica on one side only and they have water on them all the time.. and they last for years and years.. I have seen some with water marks as big as a bath tub and they still hold fast without any curling..
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I have Bob and that cheap old particle board that it's stuck to ain't warped one bit. I guess if you store or use your tools in the rain or snow you had better have your wood as close to waterproof as possible and 3 coats of paste wax on your tools.

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Has anyone looked under the kitchen /bath room counter tops laminate/formica on one side only and they have water on them all the time.. and they last for years and years.. I have seen some with water marks as big as a bath tub and they still hold fast without any curling..
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Yes i use it too !
Its awfull, but its using a waterproof glue in case of kitchens and bathrooms
the aglomerate is green signaling it's water resistance.
In case of wood I' s quite different , the paint or waterproofing has to be
applied on every side.Seen a nice sample of bending large plywood just painted one
side , for use as support to an art painting live- event last year.
After 1 year, its all bended!

Told them to paint white both side , they did not care .
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Has anyone looked under the kitchen /bath room counter tops laminate/formica on one side only and they have water on them all the time.. and they last for years and years.. I have seen some with water marks as big as a bath tub and they still hold fast without any curling..
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Bob, now don't go giving me a hard time! I have laid plywood in the grass for a few hours and had it bow signifigantly. So there you go!

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hahahahahaha I'm not Jack,,, I have seen it used on the job sites for walk ways in the mud/snow and you are right it will bow in a heart beat..but then many will pull it up and put it on the floor or the roof for the sub floors the norm ..at 30.oo bucks each now days they don't waste it now days.. it will go flat one more time.
Once used in the WW11 for PT boats by the tons because they could get it wet and it would bend right around the shape of the boat ( PT 109 plywood boot )

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Pop the bands on a new bundle of flat plywood and take a sheet off. If you don't use it that day it will be ready for the PT 109. No fun especially if it is tounge and groove.

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